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re: 82% of poll says Miles should not be fired

Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:04 am to
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And, as always, me posting a sound, well-founded argument asking legitimate questions to the ones with their heads in the sand gets no responses and buries the thread.



you got your responses....but don't sit there on your fricking high horse kid and act like your post was some beacon of sound judgement and reason. you didn't say anything that hasn't been said a million times.

funny how such a HUGE LSU fan who's been here over 3 years has literally never posted one time on this board regarding LSU football

eat a dick
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:05 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:06 am to
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When the word around town was that Les was out, I don't know if there was a Les supporter in sight that wasn't running on here to post of the impending doom and gloom without Les.


this is blatantly false
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:08 am to
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this is blatantly false


The fk its not.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:08 am to
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The fk its not.


the frick it is
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:09 am to
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So? all the Miles circle-jerkers showed up for one game to commiserate. Then it turned into a tribute to the man. what was the attendance...80,000 maybe?? Probably many first-timers who were given tix, wanting a glimpse of the departing despot.

What? This suddenly fixed all our problems and everything is rosy because Miles has a new lease on life?


Did I say we are suddenly all fixed? The point was that it was nowhere close to a unanimous collective feeling that Miles should have been fired. Many felt he deserved one more year. News outlets were interviewing tailgaters before the game who said as much.
Posted by RUKidding
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:09 am to
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eat a dick


You first

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:10 am to
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He'll go down as the best coach in LSU history


You're right he will.

He'll also go down as the coach who completely squandered the most talent in the history of this program as well. Hang your hat on that dude.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:11 am to
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don't sit there on your fricking high horse

... And then you proceed to call him a kid and say he is a lesser fan than you simply because his reasoning has been stated before. Yet you're the one that responds with such vitriol to each and every negative comment about Les. Gotta love it.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:14 am to
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News outlets were interviewing tailgaters before the game who said as much.


I get that Mickey, but in all fairness, they did only interview 5/6 people. I'm sure if anyone miked up and started blasting Miles they would have edited it out.
Still gotta maintain that party line after all.
Posted by The Estimator
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
1685 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:17 am to
Forgive me for missing what was funny, but I believe you just proved my point of the insufferability.

You go on to mock my posit that those of your ilk resort to ad hominem arguments virtually every post (with the exception of Salmon and a select few). You then beautifully end your post with a straw man to go along with as direct of an ad hominem as can be.

Don't know where I said Les would ever approach Curly as far as records are concerned. My stance is that he will not be able to get past 10 wins because his game plan is exceedingly simplistic, easily schemed against, and he can not/will not adjust accordingly. If me being unhappy with this reality is too difficult for you to understand, then I can not help you.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:31 am to
You sho is mad

What part of improving society did that little tantrum play? World hunger?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:33 am to
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When the word around town was that Les was out, I don't know if there was a Les supporter in sight that wasn't running on here to post of the impending doom and gloom without Les.


I think the more prevailing sentiment was that a replacement isn't always a sure thing.

Les detractors run with the "LSU recruits itself" and that the 90s era of LSU is over and that since LSU is a national brand now that we couldn't return to that.

We could with the wrong hire. That has been proven by plenty of big time programs over the years. All it takes is a few bad hire back to back.

Is it likely? Probably not. But LSU wouldn't be immune to it either.

For someone that claims to be reasonable, you use a lot of hyperbole to make your points.

Posted by The Estimator
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
1685 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:36 am to
He literally just proves my points. The fact that he denies that there were many on here foreboding a CLM ousting as the beginning of the end also just proves our points.

Why haven't I posted here, Choctaw, my good ol' BAW?!

Maybe because I finally had enough of you blind fools trying to say you represent a majority of the fans. I can assure you those downvotes speak a lot more to the real opinion of the fan base. I'd say it's a fairly even split with the majority going to those unhappy with Miles and giving a vote of no confidence, and for good reason! Of course, with any large group of modern humans, you will always have two distinct groups of extremists on polar opposite sides of an issue. These people will exhibit no judgement and be extremely biased. The truth and best way forward almost always lies somewhere in the middle.

I, like many others at the A&M game, supported the hell out of my Tigers the whole game, as I always have and always will. I also, like many others, supported my coach who has done great things for my alma mater and its football team. I suspected, with much evidence, that this was his last game and he deserved the respect of a proper send off for a man of his resume.

This has since been skewed by one side of those extremists to mean that I, along with others like me, was supporting Les remaining the coach, which couldn't be further from the truth. I don't even understand how you can generalize that the support (which you should have assumed he'd get whether we won or loss) was attributed to solely the desire that he remain our coach.

But, alas, sieving any bit of reason from your actions or words is obviously an excercise in futility.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:42 am to
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and say he is a lesser fan than you


never said such thing

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Yet you're the one that responds with such vitriol to each and every negative comment about Les


no...i respond to bullshite. you'll never see me call out legit concerns
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60516 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:43 am to
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Maybe because I finally had enough of you blind fools trying to say you represent a majority of the fans. I can assure you those downvotes speak a lot more to the real opinion of the fan base. I'd say it's a fairly even split with the majority going to those unhappy with Miles and giving a vote of no confidence, and for good reason! Of course, with any large group of modern humans, you will always have two distinct groups of extremists on polar opposite sides of an issue. These people will exhibit no judgement and be extremely biased. The truth and best way forward almost always lies somewhere in the middle.
. So you think the extreme negative minority in the Rant is indicative of the fan base?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:44 am to
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My stance is that he will not be able to get past 10 wins because his game plan is exceedingly simplistic, easily schemed against, and he can not/will not adjust accordingly. If me being unhappy with this reality is too difficult for you to understand, then I can not help you.


this is the type of bullshite i respond to
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:46 am to
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this is the type of bull shite i respond to



The problem is you cant refute what hes saying. Deep down you know there is some truth there.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:47 am to
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Of course, with any large group of modern humans, you will always have two distinct groups of extremists on polar opposite sides of an issue. These people will exhibit no judgement and be extremely biased. The truth and best way forward almost always lies somewhere in the middle.



so what about the media and other fanbases who the vast majority thought we were completely retarded to consider firing Miles? you know...the ones that aren't biased at all and have no dog in the fight.

let me guess...none of them really watch LSU
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:51 am to
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The problem is you cant refute what hes saying. Deep down you know there is some truth there.


there's no truth in saying "he will not get past 10 wins" and calling that "reality". How many 10+ win seasons has he had so far? How the hell did that happen? now if he would've said "i don't believe he'll get past 10 wins"...thats a different story.

but the Miles' haters like to believe they can tell the future...and most of the time they're wrong. i saw this same bullshite in 2009
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:54 am to
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Maybe because I finally had enough of you blind fools trying to say you represent a majority of the fans. I can assure you those downvotes speak a lot more to the real opinion of the fan base


no...those downvotes represent the opinion of the board

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This has since been skewed by one side of those extremists to mean that I, along with others like me, was supporting Les remaining the coach, which couldn't be further from the truth.


yeah...that's why the crowd was chanting "We want Les" and "Fire Joe Alleva" before the game even started.

just like the poll in this thread...that night proved y'all are a vocal minority and it pissed y'all off. that's why you are in this thread trying to spin it any way you can
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:56 am
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