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re: 4.27, 4.32 -- Holliday at NFL Combine

Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:06 pm to
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i am guessing because the 37 combine 40s faster than his never ran the 100m dash competitively in track ..


you are better than this Rag.
Posted by Waldo
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:06 pm to
"Trindon blazed in the 60m too"

Which is 65/66 Yards?
40 yards is 36.5 meters
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:07 pm to
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totally different starts. Blocks and gun reaction his whole life vs. no blocks and no gun in the 40. I would think if he took more time to learn the 40 and practice it his time would drop.....but then that might frick up his track start, which you don't want to do.


not too many blocks and starting guns in football, though ..
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:08 pm to
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Which is 65/66 Yards?
40 yards is 36.5 meters



yes, still 100% pure sprint races and Holliday had the 2nd or 3rd best time in the world in the 60m in 08 or 09.

Like i said, the difference in the races is the starts...totally different than what he is accustomed to.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:08 pm to
are you just trying to stir the pot?

I never would have thought you'd do something like that
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:10 pm to
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Officially timed at 4.34.


Officially UDFA.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:10 pm to
just think 100m speed is overrated on the football field unless you are out in space with one man to beat and you don't have to make a football move to do it, that's all ...

trindon generally went down on the first solid touch his entire career ...
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:12 pm to
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not too many blocks and starting guns in football, though ..


well no shite. Not many times you run 40 yards down a track in under armor and biking shorts either. All he had to do was run elite fast, and he did.

my point is if he takes time to learn the start in the 40 his time will drop.
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:15 pm to
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just think 100m speed is overrated on the football field


of course it is. not saying it's not. Simply explained why he is hailed as the fastest football player ever.

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trindon generally went down on the first solid touch his entire career ...


not so much the few chances he got this year, especially later in the year and in the bowl. He wasn't a moose at all, but he ran more physical than i expected against PSU.
Posted by RANDY44
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:15 pm to
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That's fast. According to this site the fastest offical NFL time in the forty is 4.25 but there are a number of unofficial times that are better.

LSU's Eddie Kennison was unofficially timed around 4.28 on several occasions as I recall. As for TH, anyone who's seen him perform in the 60 and 100 meters as well as on the field know that his top end speed isn't reached until 25 yds in. In other words he is not known as a great starter but rather a superb finisher.
To be sure 4.27 is outstanding. In order to get a better view of just how fast a world-class sprinter is moving you can extrapolate the following figures from TH's past performances. Using his best official time in the 100 meters (9.98) Trindon was actually moving at a rate of slightly less than 3.7 seconds per forty yds over the course of 100 meters. That's frickin' fast!
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:18 pm to
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Which is 65/66 Yards?
40 yards is 36.5 meters



its still a short, explosive race.


and the 40 start is more conducive to running a faster time than the way u start a track race
This post was edited on 2/27/10 at 1:20 pm
Posted by ottothewise
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:18 pm to
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So I guess Chris Johnson is faster?


didnt he do 4.29
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:18 pm to
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just think 100m speed is overrated on the football field




of course it is. not saying it's not. Simply explained why he is hailed as the fastest football player ever.


i know what you are saying and i understand it .. i guess i just think the "fastest player ever to play college football" based on a 100m time in track is just irrelevant, i guess ... wonder how trindon compares to bullet bob hayes from the 60s .. he played football at florida a&m i think ..
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:20 pm to
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In other words he is not known as a great starter but rather a superb finisher.


he's known as a great starter actually
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:20 pm to
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not so much the few chances he got this year, especially later in the year and in the bowl. He wasn't a moose at all, but he ran more physical than i expected against PSU.


now i was surprised at a few of his runs in the cap one, i agree with that .. but for the most part, throughout his career .. he just couldn't create extra yards when he was boxed in .. i remember the 2008 georgia game where the dogs kicked off to him deep left every time and then just funneled him to the sidelines and he couldn't do anything about it ... reached basically the 25 yardline every time ..
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:21 pm to
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bullet bob hayes from the 60s


olympic gold medalist and 100m WR holder....but ran a 10.06.

LINK

trindon went 10.00.
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:33 pm to
What's crazy is Chris Johnson had an unofficial in the 4.3's but then his official dropped all the way down to 4.24. McFadden had a low 4.2's unofficial as well, that then jumped up to mid 4.3's as his official. Just kind of crazy how these timings can fluctuate.
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:36 pm to
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What's crazy is Chris Johnson had an unofficial in the 4.3's but then his official dropped all the way down to 4.24. McFadden had a low 4.2's unofficial as well, that then jumped up to mid 4.3's as his official. Just kind of crazy how these timings can fluctuate.


absolutely.

the 40 is far from an exact science. Fluctuations like that in such a short race are really significant.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:37 pm to
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he's known as a great starter actually


you sure about that?
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 2/27/10 at 1:41 pm to
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you sure about that?


im pretty sure he was a great starter compared to track guys. Others have faster top end speed. I remember reading it after the NCAA championships
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