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3rd down and Red Zone
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:27 am
I think through 3 games our offense has produced and is playing better than expected with a new QB. Also they show they are getting better every game but if our 3rd down and Red Zone offense is struggling and this is Scott Linehan's part of the offense why can't we just let Ensminger call the entire game??
Also our defense looks lost out on the field and when the players don't know where to be on the field then that is the coach's fault. Need to see tremendous improvement over the next 2 games on defense or find a new DC simple as that!
Also our defense looks lost out on the field and when the players don't know where to be on the field then that is the coach's fault. Need to see tremendous improvement over the next 2 games on defense or find a new DC simple as that!
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:32 am to tiger nutz
It basically boils down to being able to run the ball. We can’t run the ball and are complete crap at it. If they can fix that, then I’ll bet 3rd down completion will get better. It should also help the defense. Give them time to breathe and go over things on the sidelines.
I’m as pissed as any fan right now but if we can get better at running the ball, everything else will START to fall in place. It will not make this defense top half in the country but if we can get close to average, it’ll be good enough. We need to show improvement and carry these improvements in to 2021.
On a side note, there is no reason that Gilbert and Marshall shouldn’t be on the field every single offensive play. That’s ridiculous and falls on Ensminger.
I’m as pissed as any fan right now but if we can get better at running the ball, everything else will START to fall in place. It will not make this defense top half in the country but if we can get close to average, it’ll be good enough. We need to show improvement and carry these improvements in to 2021.
On a side note, there is no reason that Gilbert and Marshall shouldn’t be on the field every single offensive play. That’s ridiculous and falls on Ensminger.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:35 am to wryder1
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We can’t run the ball and are complete crap at it.
Our RB's are averaging 4.6YPC. Last year it was 4.9YPC.
The difference is last year we were a team that was near 50/50.
This year we are more 70/30 pass/run.
We run the ball just fine most of the time. Problem is, we hardly ever run the damn ball. I do'nt understand this notion that we aren't a good running team. Are you just looking at our total yards and thinking we aren't good at it?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:37 am to tiger nutz
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find a new DC simple as that
it's not that simple. Pelini costs too much to fire at this point as far as the top brass are concerned.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:37 am to tiger nutz
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why can't we just let Ensminger call the entire game??
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:37 am to tiger nutz
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This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:42 am to monsterballads
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Pelini costs too much to fire at this point as far as the top brass are concerned.
So if we hire a bust we need to sit on him and let the program suffer because of it?? You can't do that if you want to run a good program
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:49 am to tiger nutz
it would cost LSU 7 million for him to not coach.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:03 pm to tiger nutz
They were 3-3 in the red zone vs. MSU; 3-4 vs. Vandy and 3-4 vs. Missouri.
The one missed RZ scoring opportunity vs. Vandy was at the end of the game when LSU was just running out the clock. Then, obviously the big one vs. Mizzou. Take away the Vandy one where LSU didn't try to score and you're looking at 91% in red zone scoring.
3rd downs haven't been good...at all. But it hurts when you are constantly facing 3rd and long. LSU's average yards to gain on 3rd Down vs. Mizzou was 9. Certainly, you would expect to do better than zero. But it's hard to be great on 3rd down when you are facing long yardage. Mizzou was 5-10, but their avg. yards to gain was 6. Mizzou only converted two third downs where the yards to gain was 6 or greater. Outside of the goal line stand, LSU only faced three 3rd downs 5 yards or less.
LSU is 4th in the nation in % of pass to run (61% passes). More concerning is the fact they are 4th to last in % of yards gained on the ground. The running game is virtually non existent, which is forcing Brennan into a log of 3rd and long situations
The one missed RZ scoring opportunity vs. Vandy was at the end of the game when LSU was just running out the clock. Then, obviously the big one vs. Mizzou. Take away the Vandy one where LSU didn't try to score and you're looking at 91% in red zone scoring.
3rd downs haven't been good...at all. But it hurts when you are constantly facing 3rd and long. LSU's average yards to gain on 3rd Down vs. Mizzou was 9. Certainly, you would expect to do better than zero. But it's hard to be great on 3rd down when you are facing long yardage. Mizzou was 5-10, but their avg. yards to gain was 6. Mizzou only converted two third downs where the yards to gain was 6 or greater. Outside of the goal line stand, LSU only faced three 3rd downs 5 yards or less.
LSU is 4th in the nation in % of pass to run (61% passes). More concerning is the fact they are 4th to last in % of yards gained on the ground. The running game is virtually non existent, which is forcing Brennan into a log of 3rd and long situations
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Our RB's are averaging 4.6YPC. Last year it was 4.9YPC.
That number is heavily skewed by the Vandy game, where the RB’s averaged 5.3 YPC. They averaged 3.2 YPC against Mizzou and 4.3 YPC against Miss State.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:08 pm to Alt26
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LSU is 4th in the nation in % of pass to run (61% passes)
Take out Brennans runs and add them to the passing category, b/c just about all of them but 1 or 2 were designed runs for him. The rest are sacks or him escaping the pocket.
so take 15 attempts from the rushing category, and add them to the pass plays.
Now we are at 148 passing plays to 75 running plays. 66% passing plays called thus far.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:11 pm to lostinbr
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That number is heavily skewed by the Vandy game, where the RB’s averaged 5.3 YPC. They averaged 3.2 YPC against Mizzou and 4.3 YPC against Miss State.
It's also skewed by the -36 total yards that Brennan has "run" for.
Take that out and see what you get. He had -2 against Mizzou, 3 against Vandy, -37 against MSU.
Notice i said our RB's, not our running game, when i said we are averaging 4.6ypc.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:14 pm to monsterballads
Then let him and Ensminger coach the BBQ and Orgeron coach the gumbo.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:42 pm to monsterballads
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it's not that simple. Pelini costs too much to fire at this point as far as the top brass are concerned.
yes, pretty simple.....
after this year his buy-out can be negotiated.
Lack of ticket sales will be more expensive.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:47 pm to tiger nutz
The 2 big things Coach O talked about coming out of fall camp was the defense and running game we’re going to be the strengths of the 2020 Tigers. Really makes you wonder.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:52 pm to tiger nutz
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our defense looks lost out on the field and when the players don't know where to be on the field then that is the coach's fault.
Players have blame also. When an offensive player doesn't know where to line up it's his fault.
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why can't we just let Ensminger call the entire game??
good question. not impressed with Linehan
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:53 pm to PokerPastime
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was the defense and running game we’re going to be the strengths of the 2020 Tigers. Really makes you wonder.
well they both suck so against each other they both may look great at times in practice
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:56 pm to Topwater Trout
Right but don’t you existed a national championship winning SEC head coach to be astute enough to recognize that?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:49 pm to TeddyPadillac
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It's also skewed by the -36 total yards that Brennan has "run" for.
Take that out and see what you get. He had -2 against Mizzou, 3 against Vandy, -37 against MSU.
Notice i said our RB's, not our running game, when i said we are averaging 4.6ypc.
The numbers I posted already excluded Brennan’s rushing yards and attempts.
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