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3rd and Chavis was squashed this year
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:09 pm
guess he just need 2 great corners so he could blitz.
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Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:16 pm to tigerbait2284
I think if you check our third down efficiency you'd realize how wrong you are. Especially compared to the rest of the country.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:22 pm to tigerbait2284
3rd and chavis was alive and well this year.
Do you have memory loss?
I still think he's a great dc, but it is annoying to give up a first time often on third and 14
Do you have memory loss?
I still think he's a great dc, but it is annoying to give up a first time often on third and 14
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:25 pm to DEG
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I think if you check our third down efficiency you'd realize how wrong you are. Especially compared to the rest of the country.
Are you really complaining about being 20th in the country in 3rd down conversion percentage D?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:25 pm to drtiger
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3rd and chavis was alive and well this year.
I think he was a bit more aggressive on third down this year, therefore the perception was we were better, when in reality we were not.
Last year he'd have Chad Jones 30 yards back and soft coverage elsewhere so it Third and Chavis was easy to see and target.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:25 pm to drtiger
Actually we were ranked 20th in the nation in 3rd down defense this year, so I stand somewhat corrected. We were 34th last year, which was better than I would have guessed.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:29 pm to tigerbait2284
For me this one of the year's biggest surprises, that Chavis would be willing to be so aggressive. I admit I sold the man short, even though I should know better. He adjusted to his talent and showed that his rep as a top notch DC was well deserved. Kudo's Chief, and my apologies.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:38 pm to tigerbait2284
Did you watch any games this year?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:43 pm to tigerbait2284
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3rd and Chavis was squashed this year
It never existed. This year we saw the new problem of not having any idea how to prep for Auburn or Ole Miss.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 12:52 pm to DEG
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I think if you check our third down efficiency you'd realize how wrong you are
Maybe the OP was hunting during the Arky and ole Miss games and missed the Auburn game and the first half against Alabama?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 2:18 pm to DEG
4th and Chavis anyone?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 2:26 pm to proger
(this is NOT a knock on the OP)
Wow so talent had an affect on the Defensive stats??? Amazing!!! I wonder if our Offensive could just maybe been affected by the QB play! Hmmmmm... Great talent makes coordinators look good and bad talent makes coordinators look like crap.
Flame away!!!
Wow so talent had an affect on the Defensive stats??? Amazing!!! I wonder if our Offensive could just maybe been affected by the QB play! Hmmmmm... Great talent makes coordinators look good and bad talent makes coordinators look like crap.
Flame away!!!
This post was edited on 12/12/10 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 12/12/10 at 2:29 pm to tigerbait2284
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3rd and Chavis was squashed this year
Only if the point you're trying to make is that we got 4th and Chavis'd a lot this year.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 4:20 pm to Doc Fenton
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It never existed.
There were stats posted before the season that show that 3rd and Chavis was not a myth. He was definitely trending behind the pack.
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This year we saw the new problem of not having any idea how to prep for Auburn or Ole Miss.
Agreed. After the AU game more than one defended his scheme and explained the failure in terms of poor tackling, Cam, etc. The OM game kinda of squashed that. Chief needs to try a differnt tack against spread option O's.
Lest someone think I'm being unduly critical I thought our D (less #37) did OK against Arky and I would never have guessed two years ago that KS11 would be the LB that he is today. Chavis can flat coach LB's.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 5:36 pm to DEG
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Actually we were ranked 20th in the nation in 3rd down defense this year, so I stand somewhat corrected. We were 34th last year, which was better than I would have guessed.
Typical....
3rd and Chavis is largely exagerrated...
Posted on 12/12/10 at 5:46 pm to bulletprooftiger
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3rd and Chavis was squashed this year
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3rd and Chavis was squashed this year
Only if the point you're trying to make is that we got 4th and Chavis'd a lot this year.
So what is your position?
Instead of all y'all acting like two year olds. Is your stance that our D was not effective this year?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 8:58 pm to Doc Fenton
Chavis better go to summer school for the Oregon game. If he plays Oregon like Auburn, the stadium light bill will go up just to post the Oregon score.
Posted on 12/12/10 at 9:30 pm to proger
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4th and Chavis anyone
Did we stop anyone who went for it on 4th down this season?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 9:31 pm to proger
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4th and Chavis anyone?
How about..."First and Chavis with 10 seconds left in the half and 80 yards to go"?
Posted on 12/12/10 at 10:28 pm to AlwysATgr
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Agreed. After the AU game more than one defended his scheme and explained the failure in terms of poor tackling, Cam, etc. The OM game kinda of squashed that. Chief needs to try a differnt tack against spread option O's.
There has never been a scheme that has made a tackle. Players make tackles, period. You don't stop the spread with some magic scheme. You stop it by your players executing the defense and making tackles.
If there was some magic scheme out there to stop the spread, it would be on film and every DC in the country would have copied it.
Casual fans are infatuated with "schemes" because they really don't know what "schemes" are and if you put them in a film room and showed them 5 teams running 5 different "schemes" they wouldn't be able to identify the differences. Until you learn more about football you should refrain from being critical about the coaches strategies.
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