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re: 3 BRPD officers on leave following Koy Moore incident
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:55 pm to TeamLSU
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:55 pm to TeamLSU
We don’t have to speculate in the George Floyd incident because it’s clear to any honest person that the police weren’t the ones blowing the incident out of proportion.
It matters because if your airway is restricted or blood flow is cut off then it will be evident that is what happened. Your implication is that the officer killed him with a knee in the back of the neck. He’s been charged with murder and you don’t think those details matter? Yeah let’s just ignore that stuff and lock him up and throw away the key to send a message, right? Did you ever consider that maybe the officer didn’t kill George Floyd or is that not something anyone should even consider?
Maybe the officer had his hand in his pocket because he felt like with three officers they had him comfortably under control and that was his way of relaxing a little bit. The implication from you is that it’s a cold blooded murder and he’s just sitting there acting like he doesn’t care with his hands in his pockets. Details matter. We should consider all facts and not ruin people’s lives just because emotions are involved.
It matters because if your airway is restricted or blood flow is cut off then it will be evident that is what happened. Your implication is that the officer killed him with a knee in the back of the neck. He’s been charged with murder and you don’t think those details matter? Yeah let’s just ignore that stuff and lock him up and throw away the key to send a message, right? Did you ever consider that maybe the officer didn’t kill George Floyd or is that not something anyone should even consider?
Maybe the officer had his hand in his pocket because he felt like with three officers they had him comfortably under control and that was his way of relaxing a little bit. The implication from you is that it’s a cold blooded murder and he’s just sitting there acting like he doesn’t care with his hands in his pockets. Details matter. We should consider all facts and not ruin people’s lives just because emotions are involved.
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:16 pm to Dominate308
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I hear Koy is about to be sued by the officers. Stand by.
What are they going to sue him for?
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:32 pm to kengel2
Defamation / libel? I don't even know if that's possible.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:42 pm to GoneFishing21
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It matters because if your airway is restricted or blood flow is cut off then it will be evident that is what happened.
What matters THE MOST is was it JUSTIFIED.
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Your implication is that the officer killed him with a knee in the back of the neck.
My non-expert opinion is that George Floyd would be alive today if it wasn't for the actions of that officer.
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We should consider all facts and not ruin people’s lives just because emotions are involved.
This I agree with.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:47 pm to ForeverLSU02
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:50 pm to TeamLSU
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My non-expert opinion is that George Floyd would be alive today if it wasn't for the actions of that officer.
Okay well he has been charged with murder. In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. So facts and details matter and one would have to show how the officer killed George Floyd. So you believe he would be alive if not for the officer but you don’t think that proving the officer killed him is important. I’ll never understand that. I haven’t commented on whether it was justified or not. I was simply saying that the officers weren’t the ones who blew the incident out of proportion and as far as we know there is no comparison between that incident and the Koy Moore situation.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:54 pm to SUB
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Defamation / libel?
Did he mention their names or badge numbers? I would imagine that would have a huge impact on a legal case against Moore. I only saw the one picture that (presumably) he took with their back to him.
If Moore totally made everything up then I would think BRPD could have a case. But I've never heard of a police department suing someone civilly for libel or slander.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:04 pm to GoneFishing21
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So you believe he would be alive if not for the officer but you don’t think that proving the officer killed him is important. I’ll never understand that.
I do believe that George Floyd would be alive and in jail today if it wasn't for that officer kneeling on his neck. The knee on the neck was a Contributing Factor in Mr. Floyd not being able to breathe properly, therefore, in my non-expert opinion, the officer was not justified in using that tactic AT THE TIME he used it. But hey, that's why we have courts.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:09 pm to ForeverLSU02
Maybe black people should stop trying tase, knife, or shoot cops... then the stereotype will begin to go away.
Either way, this BLM media storm has created an unfounded since of fear in the black community to where they literally think cops are picking people off randomly.
Either way, this BLM media storm has created an unfounded since of fear in the black community to where they literally think cops are picking people off randomly.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:09 pm to TeamLSU
So what was the contributing factor when he couldn’t breathe before he was ever on the ground with a knee on his neck?
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:17 pm to TeamLSU
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I do believe that George Floyd would be alive and in jail today if it wasn't for that officer kneeling on his neck. The knee on the neck was a Contributing Factor in Mr. Floyd not being able to breathe properly, therefore, in my non-expert opinion, the officer was not justified in using that tactic AT THE TIME he used it. But hey, that's why we have courts.
It would be open and shut case were it not for the toxicology report showing he had a lethal level Fentanyl in his system. Even without the Fentanyl, second degree murder won’t stick. He’s getting acquitted.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:23 pm to The First Cut
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It would be open and shut case were it not for the toxicology report showing he had a lethal level Fentanyl in his system. Even without the Fentanyl, second degree murder won’t stick. He’s getting acquitted.
Even with the so called lethal level of Fentanyl in his system, he was still BREATHING. What we do know is he STOPPED BREATHING with an officers knee on his neck.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:25 pm to TeamLSU
You continue to ignore the fact that “I can’t breathe” started way before that
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:32 pm to GoneFishing21
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You continue to ignore the fact that “I can’t breathe” started way before that
And you keep ignoring the fact that the knee to the neck may have accelerated his death.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:33 pm to Faulkmeister
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Maybe black people should stop trying tase, knife, or shoot cops.
Huh?
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:33 pm to TeamLSU
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Even with the so called lethal level of Fentanyl in his system, he was still BREATHING.
Yeah but if you watch the full video and not the propaganda edited video he was screaming "I can't breathe" long before he was kneeled on.
The whole thing is tragic, but the overcharging by the DA will get him acquitted.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:40 pm to TeamLSU
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And you keep ignoring the fact that the knee to the neck may have accelerated his death.
You keep moving from one thing to the next. First the officers in Moore’s incident are comparable to the officers in Floyd’s incident. Then you go from saying the officers were responsible for blowing the incident out of proportion and leave out Floyd’s actions. Then you change it to just one officer. You go from the officer basically murdering Floyd and ignore other factors. Now you doubt the supposed amount of fentanyl in his system and say the officer accelerated his death when you clearly don’t know what happened. You’re letting your emotions keep moving the goalposts. I was simply pushing back against you comparing Moore’s situation to George Floyd’s, which is absurd. I actually haven’t ruled out that accelerated his death. You wouldn’t even touch the issue. You don’t think details about airway blockage and cutting off blood flow are even important.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:40 pm to ForeverLSU02
I have a theory.
Moore was potentially violating team rules and at a large private party (supper spreader for the sake of vague broad allegations from his playbook).
He was contacted by law enforcement and failed to follow commands, resulting in him being frisked and embarrassed in front of all of his peers. In order to save face for both of those actions, he flipped the script and took to Twitter to falsely accuse several Police Officers of violating him.
He was young, entitled, and unaware of well established case law that allows the Officers to take the actions they did against him. He was unaware of the quality of evidence that body worn cameras produce.
Moore will learn a very valuable lesson soon.
Moore was potentially violating team rules and at a large private party (supper spreader for the sake of vague broad allegations from his playbook).
He was contacted by law enforcement and failed to follow commands, resulting in him being frisked and embarrassed in front of all of his peers. In order to save face for both of those actions, he flipped the script and took to Twitter to falsely accuse several Police Officers of violating him.
He was young, entitled, and unaware of well established case law that allows the Officers to take the actions they did against him. He was unaware of the quality of evidence that body worn cameras produce.
Moore will learn a very valuable lesson soon.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:42 pm to The People
quote:...that your theory is bullshite.
I have a theory...
Posted on 11/10/20 at 2:42 pm to The First Cut
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The whole thing is tragic, but the overcharging by the DA will get him acquitted.
This may be true, I just don't see him being acquitted.
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