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Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That is just not accurate, Roger. There are 30 receivers on the roster, and 10 to 12 in regular rotations (WR, RB, TE). WRs at all major passing programs get 100 reps a day. The Jugs (or similar brand Machine) is the only way to get those reps.
The best method of reducing drops is reps between your starting QB and his WRs. Spending extra time out of practice getting on the same page.
Typically, a WR will be lucky to get 5 to 10 reps from a starting QB 3 or 4 days a week.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:20 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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That is just not accurate, Roger
Machines are inadequate replacements for a live arm
Do they help? Absolutely. Are they the main issue? Nope.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Would it be reasonable to think that maybe the drops are a result of having no WR starters returning from the previous season and a new QB that arrived late summer so receivers can't get timimg and comfort level down until the season starts? For that reason I would expect this season to be better.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:25 pm to BayouCowboy
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Would it be reasonable to think that maybe the drops are a result of having no WR starters returning from the previous season and a new QB that arrived late summer so receivers can't get timimg and comfort level down until the season starts?
Absolutely
FTR, the drops decreased throughout the season
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely FTR, the drops decreased throughout the season
I try to be reasonable. Sometimes tRant makes that impossible.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If a QB threw 100 reps a day to 10 receivers, he wouldn't have a "live arm" for long.
Machines are inadequate replacements for a live arm
And these machines can be set to mimic the ball speed and trajectory of any QB. There's a reason these machines are heavily used by pretty much every top WR in the NFL.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:28 pm to TigerLunatik
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Provide us with the link or source. If you can't or won't then you're not backing up your claim just like you accused others of doing. I believe they call that being hypocritical.
BOOM!
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:28 pm to BayouCowboy
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Would it be reasonable to think that maybe the drops are a result of having no WR starters returning from the previous season and a new QB that arrived late summer so receivers can't get timimg and comfort level down until the season starts?
It's much more difficult to catch a ball while running through traffic in a live game. Jugs machines are great, but they can replicate a game type situation.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If a QB threw 100 reps a day to 10 receivers, he wouldn't have a "live arm" for long.
That's beside the point. Nothing replaces timing and the touch of a live arm. Machines are adequate as a supplement but the drop issue wasn't more due to inexperience
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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"You might go through a whole practice and get two to three passes," [Mike] Wallace said. "And to me that's not enough to get better that day. But if you're catching 100 before practice and 100 after practice, you've caught 203 balls that day instead of catching three."
Wallace isn't alone. In the NFL today, and at the higher reaches of college competition, virtually every skill position player can catch the ball.
Throwing a football with the power and torque of a professional passer puts an enormous strain on a quarterback.
From ESPN article, "Jugs Effect: The machine that changed football"
LINK
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:34 pm to TigerLunatik
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It's much more difficult to catch a ball while running through traffic in a live game. Jugs machines are great, but they can replicate a game type situation.
I already knew the answer. I was trying to be gentle with brother Jeaux.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:36 pm to BayouCowboy
I had no doubt that you knew that already. I just decided to cut in to add to your existing point which was a good one.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:38 pm to BayouCowboy
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Would it be reasonable to think that maybe the drops are a result of having no WR starters
Bingo. Not only no starters returning, but your top guys, Jefferson and Chase had ZERO collegiate catches coming into the season.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:46 pm to The First Cut
quote:I also expect these guys to improve. And I think Burrow and the WRs will hit all the marks I have on my signature line. But to compete at the Bama & playoff level, the receivers have to take their skill level up several notches. 10,000 Jugs reps each per WR by the Bama game would be a huge help. Huge.
Bingo. Not only no starters returning, but your top guys, Jefferson and Chase had ZERO collegiate catches coming into the season.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:55 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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The Jugs (or similar brand Machine) is the only way to get those reps.
Typically, a WR will be lucky to get 5 to 10 reps from a starting QB 3 or 4 days a week.
Burrow can't plan a "bros weekend" or something with the WRs to make up for the extra reps? He's the leader of the team. He might as well take responsibility because he will get the blame if they don't perform.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Tell me, Roger. How many live arm reps can Burrow throw to 10 WRs a day? 20 each? I wouldn't want a QB throwing 200 live reps on ANY day. Let alone every day.
That's beside the point. Nothing replaces timing and the touch of a live arm.
And 20 reps per day is a pretty skimpy number.
You guys have a real nice afternoon! I'm done on this subject for a while.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:58 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I'm done on this subject for a while.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:01 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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You guys have a real nice afternoon! I'm done on this subject for a while.
It's all good. I'm not disputing that JUGS reps help a lot. Just saying live reps are the most important factor.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:06 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Why does Moffit hate our WRs? I rue the day Alleva hired him!
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