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re: 2015 National Title
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to Traffic Circle
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to Traffic Circle
That doesn't answer either question I asked you
Glad you feel above the fray, though. Sorry you already feel bad about a season that hasn't started yet
Glad you feel above the fray, though. Sorry you already feel bad about a season that hasn't started yet
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to UpToPar
So, should we wait until next year, or not?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:06 am to Traffic Circle
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So, should we wait until next year, or not?
Well, if you had common sense you could answer this question yourself considering the current circumstances
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:10 am to Jrv2damac
hmmmm .... let me see.
When I wait for next year, the cycle comes,, and they fail and say wait for the next year. Why? Usually because "Miles was too good of a recruiter and they all left for the NFL."
If I don't wait for next year, they aren't doing squat this year.
So, I think I will have to wait for the next five years, and cheer for that team! Go Tigers, 2019!
When I wait for next year, the cycle comes,, and they fail and say wait for the next year. Why? Usually because "Miles was too good of a recruiter and they all left for the NFL."
If I don't wait for next year, they aren't doing squat this year.
So, I think I will have to wait for the next five years, and cheer for that team! Go Tigers, 2019!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:10 am to Traffic Circle
I wouldn't get my hopes up, but if there is a year that we have a good shot of making the playoffs, it's 2015.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:23 am to Jrv2damac
I am a hobbyist Psychic.
I think that the proposed motto "Just wait until next year" will serve LSU good for several more years.
I think that the proposed motto "Just wait until next year" will serve LSU good for several more years.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 12:24 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:25 am to Traffic Circle
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It basically solves any problem and fixes it "next year" which, incidentally, never occurs.
2013 we had an offense, 2012 we didn't
The 2011 offense wasn't great, but it was a lot better than the 2010 offense.
Quit bitching non stop and actually try and remember that things got better.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:30 am to SammyTiger
I don't understand the "we will never seriously compete for another national title under Miles" and the "you can't compete for a national title without a good quarterback" comments. What was 2011? That was completely Les Miles' team with no quarterback and if Oklahoma State would have beat Iowa State we would have won the national title. How can you say things can't happen that have already happened?
I think the 2015 defense has a chance to be 2011 special. I'm not so concerned about the quarterback spot because we aren't going to throw the ball anyway. I am more concerned with the offensive line. They will have a lot more impact on our success than the quarterback. Who leaves and how quickly the players who replace them develop will be the determining factor.
Like I said, though, we should start 8-0... especially if Dak Prescott goes pro because at Mississippi State in week 2 will likely be the hardest of those 8.
I think the 2015 defense has a chance to be 2011 special. I'm not so concerned about the quarterback spot because we aren't going to throw the ball anyway. I am more concerned with the offensive line. They will have a lot more impact on our success than the quarterback. Who leaves and how quickly the players who replace them develop will be the determining factor.
Like I said, though, we should start 8-0... especially if Dak Prescott goes pro because at Mississippi State in week 2 will likely be the hardest of those 8.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:33 am to spiderman
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spiderman
batman is better
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:02 am to ccox11
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Like I said, though, we should start 8-0... especially if Dak Prescott goes pro because at Mississippi State in week 2 will likely be the hardest of those 8.
That defense is going to be decimated.
They are going to lost 7 starters just from people graduating.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:57 am to LannisterTiger
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It's realy sad seeing all of you say that LSU won't win it all next year. LSU is easily the most loaded team in the west next year. The defense has to replace the ends and the offense has to replace two/three lineman but that's nothing compared to other teams in the west. Bama loses 9 of 11 on offense for example. Also our schedule is perfect... 2015 will be special
VERY LONG
I disliked your other thread, but I can kinda get behind this one. I also think we COULD BE the most loaded team as well. We get MSU and Auburn very early, when they will have to overhaul their teams. USCe has a new QB with pretty much zero experience, and their defense would need a LOT of work to be even decent. UF is going through a coaching change, AND we get them at home. We also get Arky and TAMU at home (two teams that will have improved). Our OOC schedule is a joke as well. Not to forget, we don't have any back-to-back away games. What I also like, is that we don't start out with a false sense of security. Three of our first four opponents, are power 5 teams. This gives us a real test of how good we are, right from the start. This schedule sets up very nice for us, and we could very well be 8-0 going into our bye.
LSU
We lose for sure 2 starting OL and likely Vadal so I'll say 3 total. We lose both DEs, both "starting" safeties, Kwon and 1 corner (Collins). We lose possibly, half of the defense. So at most, we lose nine. However, if we can convince Hawkins, Vadal, and Hunter to stay, we only lose 7 starters. That would make us tied with Arky as having the most returning starters in the West. Also, loses in the secondary, aren't as big as they seem, plus, we face mostly, a bunch of green and average QBs next year.
Auburn
They lose two OL. Add in their top 3 WRs, top 2 RBs, top TE, and starting QB (I know Johnson is a much better passer than Nick). On starters alone, they lose eight (I think their base is 3 WRs from Auburn site), just on offense. They lose 3 of their top 4 DTs, and one of their top 4 DEs. They are also likely losing at least two of their starting LBs/Star. Also, they lose at least one starting corner. There are at least 4 starters gone. That's 12 starters that will be gone. Best thing is that we get them at home on game three.
MSU
Loses 3 starters on offensive line plus their starting TE. They lose 2 of their starting WRs (although they are both farther down on receptions). They could also lose Josh Robinson, but I'm pretty positive that Dak and Robinson come back. They lose at least 3 of their starting DL, 2 of their starting LB, both starting safeties, and a starting CB. So they lose at least 6 starters on offense, plus 8 starters on defense, for a total of 14. We get them game two.
Bama
Loses their 3 starting WRs, and 3 starting OL. Also, their "starting" TE, QB and RB. That's 9 on offense. They lose 3-4 on defense, but since I don't know their base, I can't be sure of how many. It looks like they could possibly lose up to 6 given that almost all of them are draft eligible. So Bama sits at AT LEAST, 12-13 starters lost. Bama is Bama, and they usually just reload, but losing Cooper is a major blow to their offense.
Ole Miss
They only lose 3 starters I can see on offense. They lose 5-6 on defense (again, I don't know their base). So they lose at most, nine. Defense won't be as good next year, but doesn't matter, because we don't get them til very late in the year.
Arky
Looks like they lose 3 on offense, and 4 on defense (starters). Johnathan Williams might also leave, but for the most part, they will probably bring back the most starters in the West. They will be good next year.
TAMU
Loses one WR, 3 OL, and a TE for starters. They lose 5 on defense (
USCe
Loses a WR, 2 OL, starting RB, and QB. They only lose 3 on defense (one at each level), but they are so bad this year, I don't expect a complete 180 on how they play, even with the experience. So they lose 8 starters, which is very good, but their backup QBs have barely any experience (like literally 7 passes total between them) which could give them big problems, because neither look that great or run much to help it.
UF
They lose 3 OL, and the TE on offense. On defense, they lose 4-5. Again, since I don't know their base, I'll just go with four. So they lose 8, which is again, good, but it pretty much wipes out their LBs. I am glad we get them at home, because their offense and system, is set up to be huge next year if they can have a decent QB. What I am not sure on however, is how their defense performs after losing Muschamp.
Now let me close this off with saying that I only used seniors and 1st and 2nd round prospects, in my count of starters leaving for every team minus LSU. I won't speculate on guys that are decent draft prospects, and eligible (RS sophomore, true junior) unless it's my team. BTW, I don't see one prospect on LSU's team outside of La'el, that would go first or second. I think Vadal gets a 3rd round grade, Hunter a 3rd or 4th, and all others, a 4th or lower. I just really wish Vadal, Hunter, Hawkins, and even Kwon. won't settle for just 4th round. Somebody has got to convince these guys to stay.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 5:09 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:00 am to Dudebro2
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So the game is won in the trenches and we are going to lose a significant portion of our seniority in the trenches not to mention all-sec talent in the trenches and we are supposed to win it all next year. Not with the QB play we have had this year that is for sure.
Pretty much all of our SEC scheduled opponents are losing 3 senior OL and at least 1-2 senior DL.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 6:45 am to Datbayoubengal
There are two major hurdles to winning the title.
1) QB - We won't win it all unless this position greatly improves. We can start tomorrow if we begin preparing our future starter by providing quality playing time.
2) SEC HQ - As long as the bias continues (including scheduling, officiating, compliance, and sanctions), LSU will unlikely have a chance to play for the title.
1) QB - We won't win it all unless this position greatly improves. We can start tomorrow if we begin preparing our future starter by providing quality playing time.
2) SEC HQ - As long as the bias continues (including scheduling, officiating, compliance, and sanctions), LSU will unlikely have a chance to play for the title.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:05 am to LannisterTiger
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It's realy sad seeing all of you say that LSU won't win it all next year.
Let's just wait until next year...k buddy!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:47 am to spiderman
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LSU will not seriously compete for a national title as long as Les remains coach.
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spiderman
you are so ignorant
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:18 am to Datbayoubengal
I really hope that LSU can put it all together and make a run in 2015. but if the trend of draft eligible players leaving continues (and I have no reason to believe it won't) we are going to be just as inexperienced at key positions as we are this year.
Is it possible on offense we could only return Quinn, Dupree, LF whichever QB and Pocic? (I listed the main contributors...Diarse and the TE's haven't done much) I'd argue that having an inexperienced line, unproven qb , with more experience at WR/RB is a worse than having an experienced line, unproven QB, and inexperienced WR's.
And on D the worst case scenario of losing both DE's, Kwon, RR, both Jalens is scary too. I know we have recruited well but inexperience is scary.
Is it possible on offense we could only return Quinn, Dupree, LF whichever QB and Pocic? (I listed the main contributors...Diarse and the TE's haven't done much) I'd argue that having an inexperienced line, unproven qb , with more experience at WR/RB is a worse than having an experienced line, unproven QB, and inexperienced WR's.
And on D the worst case scenario of losing both DE's, Kwon, RR, both Jalens is scary too. I know we have recruited well but inexperience is scary.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:21 am to harry coleman beast
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Saban owns LSU. DWI
I must be watching different games. With the exception of 1 game in the past 5, LSU could have easily won every one of them. This is not the 1990s versus Steve Spurrier's Florida. Saban does not own LSU.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:26 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Landon Collins, the othe S is a Sr., Trey Depreist, Xavier Dickson & one of those NT's are all seniors, so that's 5 starters.
ETA - Nick Perry & Brandon Ivory. Would be nice if Reed (NT) & Pettway (DE) declared early
ETA - Nick Perry & Brandon Ivory. Would be nice if Reed (NT) & Pettway (DE) declared early
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:30 am to LannisterTiger
LSU wont do shite with Jennings as qb. You people are delusional
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:33 am to FreddieMac
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could have
And...they didn't.
Us "next year U" fans should fear the thumb...
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