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re: 2015 National Title

Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to
That doesn't answer either question I asked you


Glad you feel above the fray, though. Sorry you already feel bad about a season that hasn't started yet
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:05 am to
So, should we wait until next year, or not?
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72344 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:06 am to
quote:

So, should we wait until next year, or not?



Well, if you had common sense you could answer this question yourself considering the current circumstances
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4882 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:10 am to
hmmmm .... let me see.

When I wait for next year, the cycle comes,, and they fail and say wait for the next year. Why? Usually because "Miles was too good of a recruiter and they all left for the NFL."

If I don't wait for next year, they aren't doing squat this year.

So, I think I will have to wait for the next five years, and cheer for that team! Go Tigers, 2019!
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:10 am to
I wouldn't get my hopes up, but if there is a year that we have a good shot of making the playoffs, it's 2015.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4882 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:23 am to
I am a hobbyist Psychic.

I think that the proposed motto "Just wait until next year" will serve LSU good for several more years.

This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 12:24 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78299 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:25 am to
quote:

It basically solves any problem and fixes it "next year" which, incidentally, never occurs.


2013 we had an offense, 2012 we didn't

The 2011 offense wasn't great, but it was a lot better than the 2010 offense.

Quit bitching non stop and actually try and remember that things got better.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1255 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:30 am to
I don't understand the "we will never seriously compete for another national title under Miles" and the "you can't compete for a national title without a good quarterback" comments. What was 2011? That was completely Les Miles' team with no quarterback and if Oklahoma State would have beat Iowa State we would have won the national title. How can you say things can't happen that have already happened?

I think the 2015 defense has a chance to be 2011 special. I'm not so concerned about the quarterback spot because we aren't going to throw the ball anyway. I am more concerned with the offensive line. They will have a lot more impact on our success than the quarterback. Who leaves and how quickly the players who replace them develop will be the determining factor.

Like I said, though, we should start 8-0... especially if Dak Prescott goes pro because at Mississippi State in week 2 will likely be the hardest of those 8.
Posted by FranMully
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2013
1317 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:33 am to
quote:

spiderman

batman is better
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78299 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:02 am to
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Like I said, though, we should start 8-0... especially if Dak Prescott goes pro because at Mississippi State in week 2 will likely be the hardest of those 8.


That defense is going to be decimated.

They are going to lost 7 starters just from people graduating.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29036 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:57 am to
quote:

It's realy sad seeing all of you say that LSU won't win it all next year. LSU is easily the most loaded team in the west next year. The defense has to replace the ends and the offense has to replace two/three lineman but that's nothing compared to other teams in the west. Bama loses 9 of 11 on offense for example. Also our schedule is perfect... 2015 will be special


VERY LONG

I disliked your other thread, but I can kinda get behind this one. I also think we COULD BE the most loaded team as well. We get MSU and Auburn very early, when they will have to overhaul their teams. USCe has a new QB with pretty much zero experience, and their defense would need a LOT of work to be even decent. UF is going through a coaching change, AND we get them at home. We also get Arky and TAMU at home (two teams that will have improved). Our OOC schedule is a joke as well. Not to forget, we don't have any back-to-back away games. What I also like, is that we don't start out with a false sense of security. Three of our first four opponents, are power 5 teams. This gives us a real test of how good we are, right from the start. This schedule sets up very nice for us, and we could very well be 8-0 going into our bye.

LSU
We lose for sure 2 starting OL and likely Vadal so I'll say 3 total. We lose both DEs, both "starting" safeties, Kwon and 1 corner (Collins). We lose possibly, half of the defense. So at most, we lose nine. However, if we can convince Hawkins, Vadal, and Hunter to stay, we only lose 7 starters. That would make us tied with Arky as having the most returning starters in the West. Also, loses in the secondary, aren't as big as they seem, plus, we face mostly, a bunch of green and average QBs next year.


Auburn
They lose two OL. Add in their top 3 WRs, top 2 RBs, top TE, and starting QB (I know Johnson is a much better passer than Nick). On starters alone, they lose eight (I think their base is 3 WRs from Auburn site), just on offense. They lose 3 of their top 4 DTs, and one of their top 4 DEs. They are also likely losing at least two of their starting LBs/Star. Also, they lose at least one starting corner. There are at least 4 starters gone. That's 12 starters that will be gone. Best thing is that we get them at home on game three.

MSU
Loses 3 starters on offensive line plus their starting TE. They lose 2 of their starting WRs (although they are both farther down on receptions). They could also lose Josh Robinson, but I'm pretty positive that Dak and Robinson come back. They lose at least 3 of their starting DL, 2 of their starting LB, both starting safeties, and a starting CB. So they lose at least 6 starters on offense, plus 8 starters on defense, for a total of 14. We get them game two.

Bama
Loses their 3 starting WRs, and 3 starting OL. Also, their "starting" TE, QB and RB. That's 9 on offense. They lose 3-4 on defense, but since I don't know their base, I can't be sure of how many. It looks like they could possibly lose up to 6 given that almost all of them are draft eligible. So Bama sits at AT LEAST, 12-13 starters lost. Bama is Bama, and they usually just reload, but losing Cooper is a major blow to their offense.

Ole Miss
They only lose 3 starters I can see on offense. They lose 5-6 on defense (again, I don't know their base). So they lose at most, nine. Defense won't be as good next year, but doesn't matter, because we don't get them til very late in the year.

Arky
Looks like they lose 3 on offense, and 4 on defense (starters). Johnathan Williams might also leave, but for the most part, they will probably bring back the most starters in the West. They will be good next year.

TAMU
Loses one WR, 3 OL, and a TE for starters. They lose 5 on defense ( ) also. So they lose 10 starters. Your guess is as good as mine on how the defense will develop. I still think they are a year away from being a real contender, but they will be decent in 2015.


USCe
Loses a WR, 2 OL, starting RB, and QB. They only lose 3 on defense (one at each level), but they are so bad this year, I don't expect a complete 180 on how they play, even with the experience. So they lose 8 starters, which is very good, but their backup QBs have barely any experience (like literally 7 passes total between them) which could give them big problems, because neither look that great or run much to help it.

UF
They lose 3 OL, and the TE on offense. On defense, they lose 4-5. Again, since I don't know their base, I'll just go with four. So they lose 8, which is again, good, but it pretty much wipes out their LBs. I am glad we get them at home, because their offense and system, is set up to be huge next year if they can have a decent QB. What I am not sure on however, is how their defense performs after losing Muschamp.


Now let me close this off with saying that I only used seniors and 1st and 2nd round prospects, in my count of starters leaving for every team minus LSU. I won't speculate on guys that are decent draft prospects, and eligible (RS sophomore, true junior) unless it's my team. BTW, I don't see one prospect on LSU's team outside of La'el, that would go first or second. I think Vadal gets a 3rd round grade, Hunter a 3rd or 4th, and all others, a 4th or lower. I just really wish Vadal, Hunter, Hawkins, and even Kwon. won't settle for just 4th round. Somebody has got to convince these guys to stay.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 5:09 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29036 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:00 am to
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So the game is won in the trenches and we are going to lose a significant portion of our seniority in the trenches not to mention all-sec talent in the trenches and we are supposed to win it all next year. Not with the QB play we have had this year that is for sure.


Pretty much all of our SEC scheduled opponents are losing 3 senior OL and at least 1-2 senior DL.
Posted by Earn Your Keep
Member since Nov 2013
1417 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 6:45 am to
There are two major hurdles to winning the title.

1) QB - We won't win it all unless this position greatly improves. We can start tomorrow if we begin preparing our future starter by providing quality playing time.

2) SEC HQ - As long as the bias continues (including scheduling, officiating, compliance, and sanctions), LSU will unlikely have a chance to play for the title.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12252 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:05 am to
quote:

It's realy sad seeing all of you say that LSU won't win it all next year.


Let's just wait until next year...k buddy!
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6401 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:47 am to
quote:

LSU will not seriously compete for a national title as long as Les remains coach.


quote:

spiderman



you are so ignorant
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:18 am to
I really hope that LSU can put it all together and make a run in 2015. but if the trend of draft eligible players leaving continues (and I have no reason to believe it won't) we are going to be just as inexperienced at key positions as we are this year.

Is it possible on offense we could only return Quinn, Dupree, LF whichever QB and Pocic? (I listed the main contributors...Diarse and the TE's haven't done much) I'd argue that having an inexperienced line, unproven qb , with more experience at WR/RB is a worse than having an experienced line, unproven QB, and inexperienced WR's.

And on D the worst case scenario of losing both DE's, Kwon, RR, both Jalens is scary too. I know we have recruited well but inexperience is scary.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Saban owns LSU. DWI


I must be watching different games. With the exception of 1 game in the past 5, LSU could have easily won every one of them. This is not the 1990s versus Steve Spurrier's Florida. Saban does not own LSU.
Posted by billyholawboy
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2007
921 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:26 am to
Landon Collins, the othe S is a Sr., Trey Depreist, Xavier Dickson & one of those NT's are all seniors, so that's 5 starters.

ETA - Nick Perry & Brandon Ivory. Would be nice if Reed (NT) & Pettway (DE) declared early
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23895 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:30 am to
LSU wont do shite with Jennings as qb. You people are delusional
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
754 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

could have


And...they didn't.

Us "next year U" fans should fear the thumb...
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