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re: 2 questionable moves by JJ today

Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:07 pm to
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You had your best pitcher against 7-8-9. Who is not taking that option?



Exactly it was the right call to pitch Jump
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16979 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:10 pm to
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It’s absolutely true. Game 1 starters close out game 7’s in regionals when it’s close all the time.

Never said they didn’t. But you think every single coach in the country is pulling a guy who struck out 3 batter the previous inning for a starter who threw 105 pitches 3 days ago? Really? Every single coach?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50754 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:11 pm to
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Never said they didn’t. But you think every single coach in the country is pulling a guy who struck out 3 batter the previous inning for a starter who threw 105 pitches 3 days ago? Really? Every single coach?


Yep.

Coaches was their best available in that situation. Ack was not the best available.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16979 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:21 pm to
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Coaches was their best available in that situation. Ack was not the best available.

Jump was not the best available arm. If he was, he would’ve went in before Ack.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:16 am to
You sure about that?

Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38855 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:21 am to
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How often this season has Ack thrown multiple scoreless innings?

How often this season has Jump come out of the pen in a closer role on short rest after having just throw over 100 pitches
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2615 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:22 am to
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Jump was fine. Win or lose with your best and have no regrets


Obviously, he wasn't fine since he allowed the tying run and didn't look sharp. As far as "your best", normally that IS true. But not when the other pitcher just struck out the side. You act like that Jump is the guaranteed best on every single appearance he might make. That is a fallacy.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2615 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:27 am to
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The only thing I would have done is left Ack in until someone got on base


That is EXACTLY the right approach and what myself and many others have stated. People keep bringing up past performances of each pitcher. Yes, Ack had an ERA of 6.0 but NOT on this day. As I stated a few days ago in another thread, the most scary statement that Johnson made post game was he had the entire game charted out for pitching BEFORE the game started. Obviously he was willing to deviate by yanking Dutton after 3 getting on with no one getting out. But when Ackenhausen was mowing them down in the 8th, suddenly he wanted to experiment. Johnson made a bonehead decision to pull Ackenhausen for 0 reason...0 reason.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2615 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:32 am to
I don't know enough about Dutton to comment on that decision. Johnson did make the right decision there of course with the quick hook...3 batters faced...none retired. However, I've seen some other posters say and I thought so also that Coleman would get the start. Of course the way Anderson had been pitching, he would have been the obvious choice but they had used him up in previous games...just like Griffin Herring. That is the problem coming from the loser's bracket and have to play that extra game.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24658 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:42 am to
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Coaches was their best available in that situation. Ack was not the best available


You can't explain this to posters like LSUBoosie. If Ack would have come back out and given up the lead then he was be saying how terrible the move was bc Jump was warm and wasn't put in.

You lost with the best arm you had, and you just have to accept that. Ack (the untouchable arm that they wanted) had just given up 5 to Wofford and didn't make it out of the first inning the day before.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78161 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:58 pm to
If Jump had come
out throwing 91 mph with the fastball i’d have questioned the move.

But he didn’t have a dead arm.

It just didn’t work out.

Dutton is the most questionable decision.

He had gotten lit up.And I jnow everyone is saying “you have to throw 9 inntin, but I would have seen how many I could have thrown without Dutton.

Because we got 30 outs and dutton got 0.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50754 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:31 pm to
Everyone acting like Ack dominated weren’t paying attention. The first “strikeout” was 3 fouled bunt attempts. The third of which was an inch away from resulting in a 1st and 3rd with no one out. He got the 2nd and 3rd guys swinging, but only after struggling to find the strike zone after getting ahead and ending up in full counts.

Ack was also up throwing for most of the game because he was the hot pitcher had Hellmers started to struggle. So he may not have had much in the tank.

If you’re giving the ball to Jump, you do it to start the inning. You absolutely don’t do it mid inning with runners on. Also, it was mentioned about a dozen times that Johnson made it clear that Jump would be available if needed. So the shock and outrage when Jump got the ball to win the game is hilarious.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 1:34 pm
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