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1 Hour Left to Vote: LSU losing. Fan poll for NCAA Basketball Best All-Time Starting 5

Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:51 am
As usual, LSU is underseeded. Somehow LSU is a 3 seed in this. Voting will be done on the @MarchMadness Twitter account.

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This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:54 am to
Jesus, can you imagine those Duke, UCLA and UNC teams?

Where can I see the rosters?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:57 am to
What amazing players does Texas have besides Durant?

Lamarcus Aldridge 2nd best in their history? T.J. Ford is there too.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Jesus, can you imagine those Duke, UCLA and UNC teams?


But would they beat an all-time LSU starting 5?
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:58 am to


Yes.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:06 am to
You realize our all time starting 5 would be something like:

C: Shaq (2x all american; #1 overall NBA pick; 15x NBA all-star)
PF: Bob Pettit (3x all american; #2 overall NBA pick; 11x NBA all-star)
SF: Rudy Macklin (2x all american) or Ben Simmons (1x all american, #1 overall NBA pick; Rookie of the Year)
SG: Pistol Pete (3x all american, #3 overall NBA pick, 5x NBA all-star)
PG: Chris Jackson (2x all american, #3 overall NBA pick, 9-year NBA career)
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:08 am to
This starting 5 is right there in the mix with UCLA & UNC. Duke doesn't come close to LSU.

Shaquille Oneal
Bob Pettit
Any All-SEC player in LSU basketball history
Chris Jackson
Pete Maravich
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:24 am to
NBA careers and accomplishments mean nothing to this debate.
We’re talking college level talent if they played each other.

To discredit Duke and say it wasn’t close because you put some All-American and All SEC next to names, doesn’t prove anything either when you start naming Duke players. And these guys have Chamipionships next to their names as well.
They were system players, they were incredible college players who could dominate at that level.

I mean you could choose from 20 different players to be on their all time team.

Just off the top of my head, pick 5. And who’s coaching their team? Oh that’s right.

Coach K

Christian Latener
Grant Hill
Elton Brand
Bobby Hurley
Jason Williams
Johnny Dawkins
JJ Redick
Shane Battier
Danny Ferry

And UNC off the top of my top head :

Dean Smith

Kenny Smith
Michael Jordan
Stackhouse
Vince Carter
Phil Ford
Antawan Jamison
Hansbrough
Sam Perkins

ETA: might as well add UCLA

John Wooden

Adul-Jabbar
Bill Walton
Ed O’Bannon
Reggie Miller
MacLean
Russel Westbrook
Kevin Love
Jamaal Wilkes

This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:36 am to
quote:

NBA careers and accomplishments mean nothing to this debate.
We’re talking college level talent if they played each other.

Ok fine

Shaq- college national player of the year

Pistol- all time college scoring leader

Chris Jackson- 2x all american, national freshman of the year, ncaa freshman scoring record

Bob Petit- 2x all american, made him #2 pick in draft

Ben Simmons- all american and first pick in draft



That starting 5 will go up against anyone based purely on college results.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

NBA careers and accomplishments mean nothing to this debate


You cant be serious, it's the ultimate can you take it to the next level equalizer.

Serious question:

Do you think a 2x college all american, 3x all conference, national player of the year, national title winner who was drafted 16th overall and spent 5 years before flaming out in the NBA is actually a better player than someone who say was a 1x all conference player with no other notable college accomplishments but ending up making 10+ NBA all star teams?

The question here is starting 5 vs. starting 5. And we're talking things like Shaq against Christian Laettner. Who would you take in that matchup? This should be easy.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:37 am to
Really, look at those players I just posted.

Tell me they’re beating those 3 teams and coaches.
That’s ridiculous.

I can’t be biased here. I would love to say LSU would roll thru that bracket, but the truth is no.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

NBA careers and accomplishments mean nothing to this debate.


What are you talking about? Those LSU players listed were the most dominant players in college ball at the time they played.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:40 am to
Again all those Duke players were all Americans and Players of the years in something too and they won championships at the college level. They were system players.
The question is about who would win in college at the level they were in college.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21242 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:

What are you talking about? Those LSU players listed were the most dominant players in college ball at the time they played.


I never said they weren’t. Read it again.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:


Tell me they’re beating those 3 teams and coaches.
That’s ridiculous.

Are you not seeing lsus team?


You are using a false premise that going 15-20 deep makes a difference here


It doesnt
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Again all those Duke players were all Americans and Players of the years in something too and they won championships at the college level. They were system players.
The question is about who would win in college at the level they were in college.


You seem completely misconstrued about what the idea here is.

It's a starting 5 vs. starting 5.

Shaq vs. Laettner a direct matchup...you dont think Shaq EASILY wins this here despite Laettner's "college success" advantage...this isn't a "who won titles in college team accomplishment" comparison
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:42 am to
quote:

I can’t be biased here. I would love to say LSU would roll thru that bracket, but the truth is no.


Well, dozens of sports writers and historians disagree with you. These lists have been done several times, and LSU is in the top 3 in all of them. UCLA is consistently number one and LSU is number 2 or 3.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

.you dont think Shaq EASILY wins this here despite Laettner's "college success" advantage.
Honestly this is a push


We saw shaq go against Laettner in college


It wasnt as dominating as later in their careers
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I can’t be biased here


I wonder if other fan bases have fans that try to marginalize "their team's" accomplishments as much as LSU fans do? This guy isn't alone, but any topic,any sport regarding LSU someone has to roar in like Superman and demand everyone realize LSU is merely a polyester pull on the golf slacks of sports.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

We saw shaq go against Laettner in college


Part of that had to do with Laettner being on a much better team.
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