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re: Why Saban Outrecruits Everyone: Pulled an offer on a kid yesterday

Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:17 am to
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:17 am to
Nor would I expect you to care. Your character is obvious. The end justifies the means, so do what you have to do, right?

Enjoy.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:17 am to
Why?

Its the underrated, 3* players that get the shaft
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:18 am to
Is the the LSU hypocrites thread?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:19 am to
Posted by The312
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:20 am to
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Nor would I expect you to care. Your character is obvious. The end justifies the means, so do what you have to do, right?


As long as it is within the rules.

P.S. The notion that the reason Saban outrecruits everyone is because of oversigning or callous tactics is pretty ridiculous. He outrecruits everyone because (a) he is very charming on visits: (b) he is highly respected by the NFL and hads a proven track record of putting numerous players in the first round of the draft: and (c) he wins alot, including three national championships.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:21 am to
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Miller's case was way worse than Philon. The kid had already moved to town. Sorry, Miles is no better than Saban in this regard. (or in game prep, fwiw)



You are an idiot. Miller was an EE. Also he was given a choice which he would have taken but his daddy got pissed...(Rightfully so)

However this kid at bama got screwed the day of and had to go somewhere.

Again your an idiot. Miles = class $abun = slimey.

Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:22 am to
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However this kid at bama got screwed the day of and had to go somewhere.


Nope. He knew weeks ago.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:22 am to
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(b) he is highly respected by the NFL



:rotflmao:
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:23 am to
Sure dont sound like it.


I do love how every gump homer has "inside info" on what the coaches at bama are doing.

THE SECR is >>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by 337tigergirl
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:26 am to
Haha If saban never left for the NFL and was still at lsu would everybody feel the same way?

Just a question. I'm not flaming
Posted by The312
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:27 am to
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quote:


(b) he is highly respected by the NFL








Obviously, you must not follow the NFL closely. Let me guess, you're basing your emoticon laden opinion on Saban's failure in Miami, right? And based on that failure, you've erroneously deduced that the NFL has no regard for Saban, yes? You're dead wrong. Multiple NFL teams and scouts - including Bill Belicheck, arguably the best coach in the NFL - have a stated preference for drafting Saban's players because he does such a good job mentally preparing them to play in the league. Do some basic research before you post nonsense, please.
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33176 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:31 am to
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Also he was given a choice which he would have taken but his daddy got pissed...(

Which was to grayshirt

What did Bama offer Philon. To grayshirt? No diff

Why do you keep making excuses. You related to Miles? or paid staff?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:33 am to
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Why Saban Outrecruits Everyone: Pulled an offer on a kid yesterday
Yet if Miles did the same thing he'd be crucified on this board.


As well he should.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:33 am to
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He has done similar to Dexter Pratt, Storm Johnson, Elliot Porter, and Patrick Miller.


you are extremely misinformed
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21554 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:36 am to
Miller was not offered a grayshirt. Stop posting. You are embarrassing yourself.

To the Bama poster who said that Saban was charming on his visits: Liars are always charming. That is how they get away with it.

As for Saban doing a better job of preparing players for the NFL, I don't see a great number of Saban's players tearing up the NFL that would not have at other schools. How does he make them better than any other good coach would?

His recruiting schtick is a bunch of bs, and people buy it.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22540 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:39 am to
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Is the the LSU hypocrites thread?


I think it's actually the thread where LSU fans huddle up and talk bad about Saban to make themselves feel better for getting beatdown by him twice in a month. There's one for Auburn fans on the SECr too.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:40 am to
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As for Saban doing a better job of preparing players for the NFL, I don't see a great number of Saban's players tearing up the NFL that would not have at other schools. How does he make them better than any other good coach would?


Huh? If the projections are correct, Alabama will have eight first round draft picks between this season and last. Eight. That's 1/8 of total first round picks over that period coming from one school. One of one hundred and ninteen division one schools accounts for 1/8 of first round NFL drafts picks over a two year span. That's pretty remarkable. That's why kids go there.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:41 am to
Ok your right

$abun is not a LIAR.


And





















I am the President of the US
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
9961 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:48 am to
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Multiple NFL teams and scouts - including Bill Belicheck, arguably the best coach in the NFL - have a stated preference for drafting Saban's players because he does such a good job mentally preparing them to play in the league.


Really?

Here's the New England roster --

New England Roster

From my counting, there are 2 players from Bama. One has been in the league for 6 years so he has nothing to do with Saban.

The other is a part-time player drafted at the bottom of the seventh round.

The only LSU players on the roster are Kevin Faulk (before Saban's time here) and Steven Ridley (after Saban's time here).

The moral of the story -- STOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR arse.
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7185 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:50 am to
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To the dumbasses in this thread trying to compare what Saban does year in and year out to what Miles did with Patrick Miller know this. Miller still had an offer and a scholarship, the problem was that it appeared as though he could not early enroll. He could have come in the summer with the rest of the recruits. The porter situation was simply a guy qualified that no one thought he would.

For those of you even thinking Saban is the same as Miles, frick you. It's not even close. Miles genuinely cares about these kids. Saban uses them in a way that he thinks benefits him and him alone.



From my understanding of what happened Miller was told he could enroll early and then when someone more desirable came along (Kiel) Miller was told to enroll in the fall or pay his own way in spring. While the circumstances are not exactly the same, in terms of my standards of ethics they are only separated by a shade of bullshite. To deny that is only confirmation of your own bias.
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