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re: What the hell is an uncommitable offer?
Posted on 8/13/08 at 10:21 pm to sugatowng
Posted on 8/13/08 at 10:21 pm to sugatowng
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I know how it works...I've been there...I just don't agree with it...even if it was Arky in this position
What don't you agree with? It's not like the school accepting the commitment only to decide later that someone higher on the board is more deserving.
The kids understand the issue. They wait because it's in their best interest to do so. The ones that don't want to wait, go to schools willing to accept their offer.
I'm having a hard time seeing how you find this unethical.
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Posted on 8/13/08 at 10:25 pm to Aktig
quote:b/c they only have one more spot for a RB. clearly the coaches have trent richardson ahead of c-mike on their board(as does rivals). they must really feel they have shot at TR if they are willing to lose michael waiting out trent. its a risky proposition, but one theyve committed to.
Not sure I totally get the drift here. Michael is a great prospect, IMO as good as TR. If you have a five star wanting to commit, you have to go for it.
**another reason they want TR so bad is 1) they want to steal one from the god of recruiting, lord nick saban, and 2) if hes on our team, we dont have to play against him (unlike michael where if we dont get him, hes likely big12 bound)
Posted on 8/14/08 at 7:42 am to sugatowng
quote:Obviously you don't get it.
Obviously you don't
If recruits can "back out" of commitments so can Universities. The school does whats in the best interest of the school just as the player does whats in his best interest.
Apparently Hillbilly University didnt honor your scholarship and now you hold a grudge.
If not then you didnt make the grades, because no one can be this dense to keep arguing a point that has been clearly explained.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 8:29 am to Cadello
I may have missed something somewhere along the line, but can someone show me where they have found CM doesn't have a committable offer. And I'm not talking about he said she said. When a prospect says its LSU and A&M, "And I'm feeling LSU right now", I gotta believe he feels he has that offer in hand especially when he sets a time when he is gonna commit, which is before August 29th. Did LSU give TR a deadline to accept as well? Why would CM give a date? Did he give LSU a deadline?
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:15 am to Cadello
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If recruits can "back out" of commitments so can Universities.
This is totally unrelated to a conditional offer.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:20 am to Cadello
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Obviously you don't get it.
The poster said you have to "go for it" (recruiting CM)..and I posted "Obviously you don't"...I get it
quote:
If recruits can "back out" of commitments so can Universities.
I guess 2 wrongs make a right...
quote:
Apparently Hillbilly University didnt honor your scholarship and now you hold a grudge.
If not then you didnt make the grades, because no one can be this dense to keep arguing a point that has been clearly explained.
No on both points...but keep trying a-hole...
This post was edited on 8/14/08 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:21 am to Geau4LSU
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can someone show me where they have found CM doesn't have a committable offer
You won't find that. Whether or not it's true, no one really knows for sure. That's recruiting.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:39 am to moneyg
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I'm having a hard time seeing how you find this unethical.
Find unethical in my posts please...
Why offer if it can't be accepted? I just don't see how it is an advantage to the school, especially in the case of a 5* recruit because you are probably are not going to get him later if TR stays committed to Bama. Seems a better approach not to offer and then flip him with an LSU offer closer to signing day as opposed to July...
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:56 am to sugatowng
Just part of the game, although it's very annoying if you have a personal interest in a recruit who has an offer pulled (see P.J. Smith and Alabama).
Schools are protecting their backsides in case players who are highest on the board commit elsewhere.
Schools are protecting their backsides in case players who are highest on the board commit elsewhere.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 7:59 pm to sugatowng
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Why offer if it can't be accepted?
The obvious answer is because it keeps the recruit interested in your school until a later time when you may actually have a spot available.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 9:25 pm to moneyg
I would guess at this point Alex Singleton would have an 'uncommitable offer' since we are still after Michael & Richardson. Or does the coaching staff perhaps feels Singleton is better than Michael??
Posted on 8/14/08 at 9:31 pm to moneyg
quote:Dude GFY..Go argue with someone that gives a shite about your opinion..
This is totally unrelated to a conditional offer.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 9:33 pm to sugatowng
quote:You proved my point in your posts.
No on both points...but keep trying a-hole
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:13 pm to Cadello
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Dude GFY..Go argue with someone that gives a shite about your opinion..
...says the guy who equated a conditional offer with a school pulling an offer after accepting a commitment.
You seem to get bent out of shape when someone points out one of your mistakes (I'm being kind).
Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:54 pm to sugatowng
quote:the only people who know are CM and the coaches. the speculation that he doesnt have one stems from his glowing comments of LSU, despite the coaches not recruiting him hard. a&m is his other top school and theyve been putting the full court press on him all summer, yet he is still feeling LSU. i guess everyone knows we are hard onto richardson, we are not taking 4 running backs, and that we have limited space in this class already. add it all up, and you would think michael would have already committed if possible. maybe its overanalyzing by everyone, or they could be onto something.....
can someone show me where they have found CM doesn't have a committable offer
we wont know until christine announces his verbal(aug 29ish?)(and even then, his recruitment is far from over). would seem pretty odd for him to not commit to a team hes been speaking so highly of in the last few months-- unless he couldnt
quote:well, i dont think we are going to only offer 25 kids, then hand out new ones as young, fickle teenagers commit elsewhere. i agree with you in the sense that an offer is not what it used to be. its more of a preliminary, first step to being part of the team, opposed to the last step. thats just what happens when you are on a ton of top talent's short lists. i mean look at the elite talent LSU is about to close.... its a byproduct of early recruiting and coaches/schools watching their asses
Why offer if it can't be accepted?
Posted on 8/15/08 at 12:49 am to Tiger in Texas
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Or does the coaching staff perhaps feels Singleton is better than Michael??
maybe they see Singleton at a different position. They may just like his athletic ability and instincts and see him as a linebacker or fullback.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:21 am to Tiger in Texas
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I would guess at this point Alex Singleton would have an 'uncommitable offer' since we are still after Michael & Richardson. Or does the coaching staff perhaps feels Singleton is better than Michael??
He will be taken as a Fullback.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 8:14 am to moneyg
Stop being kind. You are an a-hole. I hate you.
If i could erase one person on this board it would be you. Your smug attitude and worthless output makes this board a little less enjoyable for me. My last run in with you made me stop replying to any posts you make. No one can out debate you. You are a legend in your mind. I will disregard every post you make in the future. Have a great and perfect life.
If i could erase one person on this board it would be you. Your smug attitude and worthless output makes this board a little less enjoyable for me. My last run in with you made me stop replying to any posts you make. No one can out debate you. You are a legend in your mind. I will disregard every post you make in the future. Have a great and perfect life.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 8:27 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
To think about from a different angle; Would CM announce his two favorite schools and call a press conference if he didnt have a CO?
This is assuming he's picking LSU.
This is assuming he's picking LSU.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 8:52 am to Cadello
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Stop being kind. You are an a-hole. I hate you.
If i could erase one person on this board it would be you. Your smug attitude and worthless output makes this board a little less enjoyable for me. My last run in with you made me stop replying to any posts you make. No one can out debate you. You are a legend in your mind. I will disregard every post you make in the future. Have a great and perfect life.
FYI, I have no idea what you are talking about although my gut instinct is telling me that it had something to do with you bashing Paul Mainieri (total guess).
However, I had no idea you were such a pussy.
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 8:54 am
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