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re: What does Donte Jackson offer?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:38 pm to mikecno
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:38 pm to mikecno
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With his size, can he be a shutdown corner?
That's his whole thing. He was locking down everybody at the Army All American event and the Nike Opening. During 1 on 1, 7 on 7, or the full 11 on 11 (Army AA game) the guy was putting on a show.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:03 pm to DonnyBravo
Mad wheels and great instincts and vision. His size is a little questionable but at db its no problem. Could be like a mix bewteen Dwayne Thomas and The honey badger with just a little more speed.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:25 pm to DonnyBravo
He's fast. He's real fast. I mean he makes fast people look NOT fast.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:33 pm to Datbayoubengal
First, Fournette's weight has nothing to do with being a KO returner. Okay, you want to say he is the biggest KO returner in the country...point spotted but is irrelevant. I also remember a couple of fumbles on KO returns...Voorhies recovered one on KO in the A&M game. And I will repeat the main point which you skipped over. Unless you are in a class by yourself...Fournette is not as a KO returner, why risk your most valuable OFF player on returns? And once again, regular season...0 KO returns for TDs...and more fumbles on KO returns than TDs.
White's problem was not his average on punt returns which is why I didn't mention that. His problem which has been pointed out by umpteen others on sites is that he doesn't like to come forward and field punts. Sorry, that is the truth. Watch ANY game! And there is something much worse than the roll. Twice in the A&M game alone, 2 punts he should have fielded came literally within 1 foot each time of hitting an LSU blocker! That is not their fault. They logically expected the punt to be caught. And once again, why risk injury on a stud CB for a guy who has punt return issues to begin with. JMHO
Anyway, D Jackson is supposed to be a great return guy due to quickness and speed. Also, I saw D Charlot in the Army AA game. That guy had a PR for a TD and another one that could have been. And yes, I know that allstar games are not known for great special teams coverage.
Still....
White's problem was not his average on punt returns which is why I didn't mention that. His problem which has been pointed out by umpteen others on sites is that he doesn't like to come forward and field punts. Sorry, that is the truth. Watch ANY game! And there is something much worse than the roll. Twice in the A&M game alone, 2 punts he should have fielded came literally within 1 foot each time of hitting an LSU blocker! That is not their fault. They logically expected the punt to be caught. And once again, why risk injury on a stud CB for a guy who has punt return issues to begin with. JMHO
Anyway, D Jackson is supposed to be a great return guy due to quickness and speed. Also, I saw D Charlot in the Army AA game. That guy had a PR for a TD and another one that could have been. And yes, I know that allstar games are not known for great special teams coverage.
Still....This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:56 pm to DaBike
So with # 7 lined up on one side, Jackson on the other, who do you dare kick off to?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:14 pm to Keltic Tiger
"Honey Badger" SWAG! 
Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:51 pm to EyeoftheTiger 2015
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Right now, I'm about as thrilled about his returner possibilites as anything. LSU needs a punt returner who doesn't shy away from moving up and catching short punts. Also, I have never been a huge fan of Fournette running back kicks. IMO, you don't risk your best offensive player on returns...punts or kickoffs. If Fournette was as good of a KO returner as he is a RB, that would be one thing...he isn't. He broke 1 KO return the entire season...vs Notre Dame.
White averaged more yards per punt than obj did in 13. We finished 2nd in the country in kick return yards.
This myth that our st sucked is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:59 pm to DaBike
He literally was the only legit guy that Riverdale had! He won 5 games by himself
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:05 pm to dgnx6
Not a myth. First, T White was 41st in the nation in average punt return yardage. But of course, that is not what I complained about despite being nothing special. He refuses to come up and field punts in front of him. You can spin that all you want...but many people notice the same thing.
As far as Fournette, what the hell is "2nd in the country in kick return yards?" I have no idea if that is true and who gives a damn! You know what that COULD mean? That LSU gets a lot of kickoffs! The bottom line is Fournette was 23rd in average return I believe among KO returners. And nooooo, I didn't count guys who had a handful of returns. I'm counting only those with double digit or more KO returns.
41st in the nation nor 23rd in the nation is elite by any stretch. It is above average but once again you risk position players' health doing it. Not smart!
As far as Fournette, what the hell is "2nd in the country in kick return yards?" I have no idea if that is true and who gives a damn! You know what that COULD mean? That LSU gets a lot of kickoffs! The bottom line is Fournette was 23rd in average return I believe among KO returners. And nooooo, I didn't count guys who had a handful of returns. I'm counting only those with double digit or more KO returns.
41st in the nation nor 23rd in the nation is elite by any stretch. It is above average but once again you risk position players' health doing it. Not smart!
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:45 pm to That LSU Guy
I want to see Charknado vs Donte's Peak in a 100 yard foot race
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:45 pm to EyeoftheTiger 2015
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First, Fournette's weight has nothing to do with being a KO returner. Okay, you want to say he is the biggest KO returner in the country...point spotted but is irrelevant.
I put that there because when I looked at all the people ahead of him, they were a bunch of DBs and WRs, so it makes it even more impressive.
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I also remember a couple of fumbles on KO returns...Voorhies recovered one on KO in the A&M game.
You have bad memory. I remember one on KO, and that was the one at TAMU which Paris recovered. Two plays later he ran for a 46 yard gain. He only fumbled one other time the entire year and that was against Ole Miss.
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I will repeat the main point which you skipped over. Unless you are in a class by yourself...Fournette is not as a KO returner, why risk your most valuable OFF player on returns? And once again, regular season...0 KO returns for TDs...and more fumbles on KO returns than TDs.
On point one, I agree that he should not be the KO returner. Not because he is an offensive player though, but because he is the starting RB. I would have no problem with a WR doing it (see Beckham).
Your second point is BS and made up shite. Fournette was a top 20 KO returner in the country. He had one fumble on KO, and does it matter when he returns a kick for a TD? Return more than 2 Kicks during the year and you are an elite return man. Hell just returning two makes you very dangerous. You act like the shite occurs all the time or something.
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White's problem was not his average on punt returns which is why I didn't mention that. His problem which has been pointed out by umpteen others on sites is that he doesn't like to come forward and field punts. Sorry, that is the truth. Watch ANY game! And there is something much worse than the roll. Twice in the A&M game alone, 2 punts he should have fielded came literally within 1 foot each time of hitting an LSU blocker! That is not their fault. They logically expected the punt to be caught. And once again, why risk injury on a stud CB for a guy who has punt return issues to begin with. JMHO
Ok I've mentioned similar, my point in my post was to acknowledge that while these two weren't the greatest of returners, from an average return yardage standpoint, the were pretty much better than most. Also the fact that they both scored also points to that fact.
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Anyway, D Jackson is supposed to be a great return guy due to quickness and speed. Also, I saw D Charlot in the Army AA game. That guy had a PR for a TD and another one that could have been. And yes, I know that allstar games are not known for great special teams coverage. Still....
I agree and have said this many times myself on the recruiting board. Donte Jackson needs to be the punt and kick returner.
There are also guys like Dillon and Charlot who could both be dynamic punt returners as well.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:31 pm to Datbayoubengal
I said Fournette fumbled twice on kickoff returns...you said he fumbled twice on kickoffs so my memory was the same as yours. 
Fournette was not in the top 20 in KO returners in the country. And BTW, I only counted the guys who returned quite a few of them...not the 2 or 3 return guys. So you're the one BSing there. Here is the link man.
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T White was in the 30's or 40's in PR depending on where you draw the line as to how many PR you need to qualify. Once again, here is the link.
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LSU needs to upgrad PR and KR and NOT to use crucial personnel on these teams. It is as simple as that. Guys like Jackson and Charlot if he were to sign at LSU would improve the position and also not risk starting position players.
Fournette was not in the top 20 in KO returners in the country. And BTW, I only counted the guys who returned quite a few of them...not the 2 or 3 return guys. So you're the one BSing there. Here is the link man.
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T White was in the 30's or 40's in PR depending on where you draw the line as to how many PR you need to qualify. Once again, here is the link.
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LSU needs to upgrad PR and KR and NOT to use crucial personnel on these teams. It is as simple as that. Guys like Jackson and Charlot if he were to sign at LSU would improve the position and also not risk starting position players.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:52 pm to DonnyBravo
Aside from his on-the-field attributes, Jackson can offer more than dynamic athleticism alone. Perhaps there is something to be said for Donte Jackson, the high-profile, in-state prospect? My point, his commitment could offer an invaluable example for prospective Tigers (especially those in Louisiana) who navigate the recruiting process in years to come.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:06 pm to DonnyBravo
I know one thing, this boy better be returning kickoffs and punts before anything else
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:33 pm to DonnyBravo
I watched Adoree Jackson play very well as a true freshman at USC. Jackson maybe better.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:37 pm to DonnyBravo
None of our receivers are above average with the ball in their hands. I hope he gives us the WR screen option. We couldn't throw it this year because our guys couldn't do anything with it.
He should also return punts.
He should also return punts.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:45 pm to Penrod
Right, we are probably getting away from recruiting, but I agree with you 100%. For some reason, some people think QB = passing game. That is not true IMO. The passing game = QB + OL blocking + receivers being in the right place, running good routes, and catching the ball + OC who mixes up plays so that the opponent is guessing on play cal. I don't see a real strength in that equation from 2014...none of those factors.
LSU needs to either improve the QBs or recruiter better ones...same with WRer...same with OL...same with OC by the way. Oh, and for God's sake, since you want to have 10,000 TEs on the roster, find a solid pass receiving one! GEEZ!!!
LSU needs to either improve the QBs or recruiter better ones...same with WRer...same with OL...same with OC by the way. Oh, and for God's sake, since you want to have 10,000 TEs on the roster, find a solid pass receiving one! GEEZ!!!
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:06 am to EyeoftheTiger 2015
I said Fournette fumbled twice on kickoff returns...you said he fumbled twice on kickoffs so my memory was the same as yours.
Fournette fumbled twice PERIOD. That is on all touches. He lost one fumble all year against Ole Miss. His other one was picked up by TAMU.
LOL no you didn't. If you did, you'd notice that 24 players ahead of him didn't even return 10 kicks. Anyway, ESPN is crap for real stat checkers. Here I use this site as many other media members do
LINK
one more site
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I won't even bother with your Punt return stuff because it's the same ESPN garbage.
Yes I agree that we can and should upgrade, but White and Fournette did more than adequate jobs as returners. They did have their faults though. Fournette did not have enough shake and bake, and White failed to field some punts that could have become disastrous.
Fournette fumbled twice PERIOD. That is on all touches. He lost one fumble all year against Ole Miss. His other one was picked up by TAMU.
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Fournette was not in the top 20 in KO returners in the country. And BTW, I only counted the guys who returned quite a few of them...not the 2 or 3 return guys. So you're the one BSing there. Here is the link man.
LOL no you didn't. If you did, you'd notice that 24 players ahead of him didn't even return 10 kicks. Anyway, ESPN is crap for real stat checkers. Here I use this site as many other media members do
LINK
one more site
LINK
I won't even bother with your Punt return stuff because it's the same ESPN garbage.
Yes I agree that we can and should upgrade, but White and Fournette did more than adequate jobs as returners. They did have their faults though. Fournette did not have enough shake and bake, and White failed to field some punts that could have become disastrous.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:50 am to LordoftheManor
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..very hard worker , motor never stops running , high intensity guy , makes everybody around him better , high football IQ , a diffrence maker
deceptive speed, gym rat, student of the game
These quotes were funny about 3 years ago.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:59 am to DonnyBravo
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