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re: Trey Hawsey 1B/OF West Monroe
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:33 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:33 am to ProjectP2294
If you are good enough, it won’t matter. I just think it’s pretty wild to get worked up about the statement then claim it’s “smart parents”. It’s definitely not something that scouts are just not going to even look at. A physically mature 19 year old like Pearson will be viewed different than a kid who is 18 with much more projection in his frame. It’s pretty irrelevant for someone like Bobby Witt who has talent galore.
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:55 pm to lsu777
quote:Ok. I hope he does great. It is very important. Mine is a 14 year old freshman. He does well in school, he does well in sports, he has a boat load of friends. I would not encourage him to disrupt his life to mash as a jr batting off 15 year olds as an 18 year old.
my middle will be 19 start of freshman year of college and i would like to hold him back again and have him be 19 his whole senior year.
quote:We get your take on every subject because you think you are special in that you know a couple folks at Barbe. Get over yourself.
who gives a frick what your opinion is on that.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:17 am to Lester Earl
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I don’t think it matters a ton past high school but a 19y 3mo is a huge difference in high school where some of the kids are just 15-16.
On the recruitment front, I think they become a little more difficult to project due to being older than everyone.
absolutely and it is an advantage in sports but its also an advantage in life for the kid to be more mature when they graduate and start having to make life changing decisions.
any parent that allows their son to graduate at 17 is doing them a huge disservice and frankly is being a terrible parent.
kids should be an older 18 or a very young 19 when they graduate. sure its gonna piss some off who had shitty parents and forced them to graduate at 17 but i dont care.
I despise the fact that my oldest will graduate a very young 18. puts him at huge disadvantage and would love to hold him back, hell he wants to be held back but there are social reasons we arent. but make no mistake about it, puts him at a disadvantage in every catagory
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:20 am to tigerfoot
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Ok. I hope he does great. It is very important. Mine is a 14 year old freshman. He does well in school, he does well in sports, he has a boat load of friends. I would not encourage him to disrupt his life to mash as a jr batting off 15 year olds as an 18 year old.
i wouldnt suggest you hold them back for sports purposes, thats stupid. im talking maturity across the board to make life changing decisions
but your son is 100% at a disadvantage when it comes to school, life and overall maturity and college readiness.
essentially you are saying...my kid does not need any extra guidance at 18, he is so smart he doesnt need an extra year under my guidance or in my house.
Do you real;y believe any kid would not benefit from an extra year of guidance if they have good parents? Im sure you are a good parent and do you really believe you son would not benefit from an extra year living under your guidance helping him with decisions? Doesnt matter now because its too late but thats really what this boils down to as sports should not even factor in to the decision, thats just a bonus
its...would my son/daughter benefit from living under my roof and having my guidance another year? Would another year of maturity under that guidance help them when making life-altering decisions?
Yea i get annoyed with parents whining about this. Especially if the kid turns 19 right before graduation. There is a big difference between a kid being 17 and a couple months and 18 and 11 months or just turning 19 and if a parent of the 17 year old whines...gonna say something. Not the 19 year olds fault that his parents had more foresight than the 17 year olds.
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We get your take on every subject because you think you are special in that you know a couple folks at Barbe. Get over yourself.
yea thats it. i give my opinion because i know a couple people at barbe
:rotflmao: name one time i have said...my opinion matters because i know people? who gives a frick who i know?
my opinion matters because im pretty damn smart and have the ability to think critically and not be an emotional twat, not because of who i know
as far as hold backs in youth baseball....imo a kid should have to play age group until 14, then they can repeat 14 if they are a hold back.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:42 am to lsu777
The real question is whether or not Hawsey has the height to weight ratio and contact angle to produce at the next level.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:54 am to lsu777
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I despise the fact that my oldest will graduate a very young 18. puts him at huge disadvantage and would love to hold him back, hell he wants to be held back but there are social reasons we arent. but make no mistake about it, puts him at a disadvantage in every catagory
Man, you really feel the need to justify your decision to hold your kids back.
If your kid is immature or struggling in school, hold them back. If you want your kid to be able to dominate younger kids in sports that's a little much.
If you think schools and pros (in any sport) don't consider the age of a prospect when trying to forecast their future development, you are wrong.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:09 am to lsu777
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my opinion matters because im pretty damn smart
ok Fredo Like the other guy said, get over yourself.
Your opinion matters no more than the guy that you told “who gives a frick what your opinion is on that?”
So it sounds to me like you’re either saying that grades 1-12 should start at age 7 or you’re advocating adding an extra year of primary education before starting college. Which is it?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:11 am to DRock88
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The real question is whether or not Hawsey has the height to weight ratio and contact angle to produce at the next level.
i have no idea, i assume he is pretty big considering most are on WM
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:14 am to TigerDeacon
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Man, you really feel the need to justify your decision to hold your kids back.
If your kid is immature or struggling in school, hold them back. If you want your kid to be able to dominate younger kids in sports that's a little much.
i didnt hold mine back except my middle because we started school early. all mine will be 18 at graduation
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If your kid is immature or struggling in school, hold them back. If you want your kid to be able to dominate younger kids in sports that's a little much.
agreed and stated holding back for sports is dumb AF. its advantage buts its like #25 on the list of reasons to hold back
but how do you know your kid will be immature or struggling in HS if they are only in elementary school? point is they have a better chance of success if they are older
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If you think schools and pros (in any sport) don't consider the age of a prospect when trying to forecast their future development, you are wrong.
i never said they dont but you are seeing more and more older kids getting rides to D1 where they are expected to compete against older and older kids every year
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:15 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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ok Fredo
Like the other guy said, get over yourself.
Your opinion matters no more than the guy that you told “who gives a frick what your opinion is on that?”
So it sounds to me like you’re either saying that grades 1-12 should start at age 7 or you’re advocating adding an extra year of primary education before starting college. Which is it?
should absolutely be 7 in 1st grade. 100% believe that.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:24 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
quote:I have no dog in this fight but doesn't everyone at least turn 7 in first grade? I turned 7 in December of first grade and I was probably on the slightly younger side.
o it sounds to me like you’re either saying that grades 1-12 should start at age 7
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:33 am to PP7 for heisman
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I have no dog in this fight but doesn't everyone at least turn 7 in first grade? I turned 7 in December of first grade and I was probably on the slightly younger side.
yea im just saying turn 7 in 1st. would be great if it was start of year.
but in the end the state has rules on eligibility. Trey meets those, he did not turn 19 before his senior year started.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:39 am to PP7 for heisman
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doesn't everyone at least turn 7 in first grade?
I guess it depends on the state, but no not everyone, at least not in Texas. Cut off is September 1. So anyone born in June/July/August wouldn’t turn 7 until after the school year ends, but BEFORE or very shortly after the 2nd grade year begins.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:57 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
its end of September in Louisiana
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:19 pm to DRock88
In West Monroe's 8-1 season opener win against Airline, Hawsey went four for four. One single, one double and two triples. We will see how he fairs against BR Catholic this weekend.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:34 pm to lsu777
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its end of September in Louisiana
Yep. And believe it or not, back in my day growing up in Louisiana, it went on a strict calendar basis…Jan-Dec in same graduating class. So you had kids that didn’t turn 18 until potentially 6 mos after HS graduation.
Deal is, and I think this gets back to the crux of the situation, do whatever is right for the kid as a person, but competitively, be it athletics, academics etc, age matters at least up to a point. I mean, for instance, take a hypothetical 8th grade science project where the winner gets some major award. By definition and no matter what the cutoff dates are, there is a potential one year gap between the oldest and youngest in the grade. Then say the older kid got held back at some point prior. You’re then talking about a 2 year gap between kids in the same grade competing for the same thing. I think that’s where these objections pop up.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:38 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Yep. And believe it or not, back in my day growing up in Louisiana, it went on a strict calendar basis…Jan-Dec in same graduating class. So you had kids that didn’t turn 18 until potentially 6 mos after HS graduation.
Deal is, and I think this gets back to the crux of the situation, do whatever is right for the kid as a person, but competitively, be it athletics, academics etc, age matters at least up to a point. I mean, for instance, take a hypothetical 8th grade science project where the winner gets some major award. By definition and no matter what the cutoff dates are, there is a potential one year gap between the oldest and youngest in the grade. Then say the older kid got held back at some point prior. You’re then talking about a 2 year gap between kids in the same grade competing for the same thing. I think that’s where these objections pop up.
no i get it, i just get tired of the whining. its usually from people that have the younger kid who thought their kid was fine...until he got to hs and all the sudden he is by far the smallest and least mature but its too late.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:55 pm to lsu777
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its usually from people that have the younger kid who thought their kid was fine...until he got to hs and all the sudden he is by far the smallest and least mature but its too late.
Right, but theoretically, if all the younger section of a class gets held back won’t we be back to the same issues? I think as long as the gap is a year (and I’m not saying there is a viable alternative), at least at the lower levels it will always be a big deal.
And let’s face it, not everyone is doing it for maturity and mental development reasons as you’ve described. They’re doing it to get an advantage.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:12 pm to lsu777
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my middle will be 19 start of freshman year of college and i would like to hold him back again and have him be 19 his whole senior year.
Aren’t you the same guy who said he’d want the guy who pulled a knife on his coach? Win at all costs right? You seem like a dirtbag
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:13 pm to lsu777
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any parent that allows their son to graduate at 17 is doing them a huge disservice and frankly is being a terrible parent.
You are absolutely off your rocker
Good lord
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