Top WRs are fools: Commit to LSU play with QB Underwood; Win Titles, get Coached & Drafted

Unfortunately that’s not what most of these top recruits care about anymore. They’d go play with Andrew Hatch at QB over a Joe Burrow if It meant a little more money.

WR and CB will always be the diva positions.


LSU has what it needs in state at WR 99% of the time. Harlem Berry will likely rack up 5-600 yards receiving in addition to his rushing when he plays. There are still several Louisiana WRs we can go after. I say this all the time, but point me to the last great out of state WR LSU had. Go look it up. It may shock some of you.

It is surprising, but there’s still some big names on the board who are uncommitted. There’s also a chance you see some flips in season.

Bag never loses. Used to be p but if you have the bag you will get that now.

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It’s not insane that these kids are going where the money is. A lot of them come from impoverished ares and haven’t had much growing up. I know you can’t but put yourself in their shoes. Plus the pressure from some of the parents to take the highest bidder. The NFL is not a guarantee. I see a lot of 5 stars that don’t pan out so get it while you can. Stop trying to put yourself in someone else’s shoes. You can still work your tail off and not get drafted.

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I agree with you but this made me

What people aren’t thinking about is year to year portal transfers

May lose a highly touted battle in initial year but get him in year 2

Jesus Christ man. LSU isn't the only school with a good QB that can develop wide receivers and win a national championship.

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As a student athlete: You go to college for an education and also improve your skill set and draft stock per the nfl.

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This is obviously the ideal scenario, but these kids often aren't operating under ideal conditions. Who are you, who am i, who are any of us to tell someone else the proper criteria for their own college choice? I have no idea whether this describes DK Moore or not, but for a lot of kids NIL is literally an opportunity to provide for their family - to let their mom quit her second job, to get their siblings out of a shitty living situation or put groceries on the table, etc. Can't imagine telling that kid he's wrong for chasing the biggest bag (which, btw, we don't even know is the case).



What's more is this: Football is an uncertain sport. Even more uncertain when you're trying to project HS kids to the NFL level. Guys get injured, guys aren't good enough, etc. In the 2018, 2019, and 2020 recruiting classes (the 3 most recent classes to have a full 4 years of time in college), there were a total of 12 consensus 5* WRs and 24 consensus top-50 WRs. Of the 24 top-50 guys, only 9 have been drafted (7 are still in college, but those 7 have combined to do almost nothing in their 4-5 college seasons). Even the 12 5*s only had a total of 3 guys drafted in the first 3 rounds, and less than half of the 5*s have gotten or are likely to get a significant NFL payday.


For reference, here are the the 24 guys, with their outcomes listed (*=former 5*):

Justin Shorter* - 5th rd pick in 2023, signed for 4yrs/$4.1m ($323k gtd), didn't record an nfl statistic as a rookie

Amon-ra St. Brown* - 4th rd pick in 2021, just signed a $120m extension

Terrace Marshall* - 2nd rd pick in 2021, signed for 4yrs/$5.7m, has totaled 767yds and 1TD thru 3 seasons

derion kendrick* - 6th rd pick in 2022, signed for 4yrs/$3.7m, started most of last year at CB

Jaylen Waddle - 1st rd pick in 2020, just signed a 3yr/$84.8m extension

Devon Williams - UDFA in 2022, hasn't made an NFL roster

Justyn Ross - UDFA in 2022, signed a 3yr/$2.5m contract, has recorded a total of 53yds thru 2 seasons

Jaden Haselwood* - UDFA in 2023, hasn't made an NFL roster

Garrett Wilson* - 1st rd pick in 2022, will sign a big extension

George Pickens* - 2nd rd pick in 2022, will sign a decent extension

Dominick Blaylock - UDFA in 2024, unlikley to make an NFL roster

Kyle Ford - entering his 6th college season, has totaled 873yds and transferred twice, wont be drafted

Frank Ladson - entering his 6th college season, has totaled 726yds and transferred twice, won't be drafted

Jake Smith - entering his 6th college season, has totaled 568yds and transferred twice, won't be drafted

Julian Fleming* - entering his 5th college season, has totaled 963yds and transferred once, may possibly be drafted in a mid-late round)

Jackson Smith-Njigba* - drafted in the 1st rd in 2023

Kayshon Boutte* - drafted in the 6th rd in 2023, totaled 19yds as a rookie

Demond Demas* - arrested then transferred to JUCO then arrested again now out of football

Rakim Jarrett* - UDFA in 2023, signed for 3yrs/2.7m made roster, totaled 60yds as a rookie

Gee scott - entering his 5th college season, has totaled 140yds, won't be drafted

Jalen McMillan - drafted in the 3rd rd in 2024, signed for 4yrs/$5.6m

Arian Smith - entering 5th college season, has totaled 539yds, unlikely to be drafted

Gary Bryant Jr. - entering 5th college season, has totaled 1087yds, unlikely to be drafted

Jordan Johnson - entering 5th college season, didn't record a stat at either of first 2 schools, now heading to a JUCO






If you want to say that guys have a better chance at LSU, here are the consensus 4 and 5* WRs we've signed in that same timeframe: Arik Gilbert (out of football), Kayshon Boutte (6th rd pick), koy moore (entered portal after totaling 24yds in his senior year at auburn; doesn't seem to have gotten picked up), alex adams (entering yr5 of college, totaled 188yds last year for akron), trey palmer (6th rd pick), devonta lee (2 catches for 17yds in 2yrs at la tech after transferring), ja'marr chase (1st round), terrace marshall (2nd rd), kenan jones (never recorded a catch, was out of football after his sophomore year).


The fact is that, even for the best of the best HS prospects, making big money in the NFL is a sub-50% proposition, and while coming to LSU might help, it's by no means a guarantee.


Also: It's particularly amusing to me that the same people talking about how kids are dumb for taking the biggest NIL bag are the same ones who say that even bluechip kids have too high a bust rate to justify a big NIL bag. If you think they're unlikely to pan out, then taking the biggest bag out of HS is the prudent financial decision.

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How many high school divas really pan out?

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Cracks me up that nobody saying things like this realizes that they're arguing against their own conclusion. If HS prospects have a high bust rate (they do), then looking for the biggest possible bag as a recruit makes *more* sense, not less sense.


Even among 5*s, it's more likely than not that a guy will never see big-time NFL money. So anyone who acknowledges the extreme uncertainty inherent in recruiting but still calls a kid dumb for seeking out the biggest possible NIL bag in their recruitment is either (a) salty because the kid didn't pick their school; (b) jealous that a teenager is getting rich; or (c) just straight up not using their brain.

Talk about stupid receivers? What about those two idiots Jefferson and Chase? Those dumbasses signed to play with Brandon Harris and that other midget. They made a big mistake. Had they signed with Alabama they could be making millions in the NFL right now.