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Thought we did well in OL recruiting last year
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:22 am
Dummerville, Martinez, Hill
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:51 am to saturncube21
I'll say it was on par
You can't just sign 3 ol a year though
You can't just sign 3 ol a year though
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:52 am to saturncube21
Everything seems better when you're winning
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:54 am to saturncube21
We did but three should be the minimum every year. You need at least four to five every recruiting class because it is the hardest to project. While all three looked the part in high school it’s a different animal in the SEC. Basically when you sign three you NEED all three to pan out. Time will tell but that’s why it’s crucial that we sign Leigh and I think at least two more this year.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:54 am to saturncube21
I agree, me too.
Most of criticism involves taking 4-5 OL every cycle, so fans feel 3 is insufficient number of recruits
Most of criticism involves taking 4-5 OL every cycle, so fans feel 3 is insufficient number of recruits
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:56 am to Tigerbait1991
Agree with this. Plus, research indicates OLs have highest injury rate of all positions on field (according to Mike D. anyway)
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:59 am to Chalkywhite84
quote:
You can't just sign 3 ol a year though
Signing transfers, grad and undergrad, skews the numbers. We signed Shanahan, so we actually signed 4 and he's a starter - possibly a two-year starter.
Two full years of starting is a win for any OL
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:04 am to dwright369
At this point I wouldn’t even be mad if the next couple of years we took 6 OL each class. We have to prove it every year on the line first. I’m sure we will get a couple highly rated guys mixed in with mostly projects but you have to take that chance. Once you rebuild and the OL looks set up with your guys then you can get knit picky with the 3-4 guys you want each class.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:03 am to saturncube21
3 guys is basically the bare minimum you have to sign for the class to be considered adequate. 1 OL in a class one year after 3 OL is potentially disastrous--we are legitimately risking running into FSU territory if we don't add more OL to this class.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:08 am to LifeAquatic
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3 guys is basically the bare minimum you have to sign for the class to be considered adequate. 1 OL in a class one year after 3 OL is potentially disastrous--we are legitimately risking running into FSU territory if we don't add more OL to this class.
They arent only going to get 1 Ol, chill out. The number is 3
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:25 am to saturncube21
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Dummerville, Martinez, Hill
...and Martinez & Hill are depth guys. Its going to take them at least 2 or 3 seasons to develop into solid contributors. Let's be real, we need to be going after elite guys upfront.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:27 am to thunderbird1100
You are a good poster so nothing is directed at you.
However, if the goal for this recruiting class is 3 then that is not enough. 6 over a 2 year period is not enough because of not panning out; tranferring etc.
Also; not trying to be to harsh but Traore and Shanahan have not been good enough if you count them in the recruiting numbers.
OL is hard to project and haa a high failure rate so 3 per year is not enough. I understand it will be 3 some years 5 other years etc depending on recruits that we are in on but OL needs extra attention.
Yes there is still time and targets avaliable for this recruiting class but I also understand the concern from some fans.
However, if the goal for this recruiting class is 3 then that is not enough. 6 over a 2 year period is not enough because of not panning out; tranferring etc.
Also; not trying to be to harsh but Traore and Shanahan have not been good enough if you count them in the recruiting numbers.
OL is hard to project and haa a high failure rate so 3 per year is not enough. I understand it will be 3 some years 5 other years etc depending on recruits that we are in on but OL needs extra attention.
Yes there is still time and targets avaliable for this recruiting class but I also understand the concern from some fans.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:50 am to wildcat81tiger86
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Also; not trying to be to harsh but Traore and Shanahan have not been good enough if you count them in the recruiting numbers.
A depth guy and a potential two-year starter. What exactly do you think the hit rate is with offensive linemen?
And we are talking about signing numbers. You can't look into the past and subtract players from the numbers like they don't count.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:02 am to Bjorn Cyborg
All I am saying is that the OL recruiting needs to improve just like Coach O did with the DL.
I am not an OL coach or anything but in my opinion Liam is playing Center by default because we don't have a legitimate SEC level center on the roster. I don't think that Liam has played that good at center but that is just my opinion.
I am not an OL coach or anything but in my opinion Liam is playing Center by default because we don't have a legitimate SEC level center on the roster. I don't think that Liam has played that good at center but that is just my opinion.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:54 am to wildcat81tiger86
quote:We took 4 last year with Shanahan included
However, if the goal for this recruiting class is 3 then that is not enough. 6 over a 2 year period
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:55 am to wildcat81tiger86
We haven't played in so long, I can't remember how well anyone has played.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 7:43 pm to saturncube21
quote:absolute home run. Moon shot.
Dummerville
quote:We'll see... high hopes. But we'll see. S&C is going to make or break this one.
Martinez
quote:Actually disagreed with this offer. Boy was I wrong. He came in and showed out. Kid's gonna be good.
Hill
I agree the volume needs to go up. But volume for volume's sake gets you no where. You're going to have to have projects to get your numbers up. Here's I20Goon's rules for OL projects:
- can move well. Natural agility and fluid in the sense that when he moves, it is with body control... but still relatively fast and "effortless"
- frame for good mass. Not height and weight... FRAME. No, we don't need to recruit midgits. But don't insist on having an SEC body as a HS senior. Insist on having an SEC frame and build the body. Not a single OL coming from HS was body-ready for SEC play. Project or not, you have to do this.
- HS competition: even though they didn't look so good on film, if they looked ok against very good competition you can work with that. OL coming from HS who never faced another Div-I recruit are shocked with how fast their first 1/2 second is, with power, after snap. It takes getting used to and if they've never seen it then you don't know if they ever will adjust. The battle is often won in that first 1/2 second. Did they get you off balance, turn your shoulders, and cause you to take a half step the wrong way all in .5 seconds? And did the the DL do that every other play? If yes, you want play much in the SEC.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 7:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Hes a bad/decent starter, hence back to the numbers
Should be grabbing more on the o-line
Should be grabbing more on the o-line
This post was edited on 11/21/20 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:28 pm to saturncube21
Any or all of those could still become contributors, though probably not this season.
Following OL recruiting over the years, it seems like every year, LSU has fewer commitments from OL than any other position. That usually seems to change the last few weeks before signing day.
Following OL recruiting over the years, it seems like every year, LSU has fewer commitments from OL than any other position. That usually seems to change the last few weeks before signing day.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 10:39 pm to I20goon
NM
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 10:41 pm
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