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Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:07 pm to L S Usetheforce
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The guy who predicted Odell wasn’t good? ?? Earl is in tune but he is human.
I think he was joking, because we all know the only thing he is in tune with is the smell of his own farts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:25 pm to sunnydaze
They need bodies now, at that point i thought they'd retain Maason Smith and add a few other guys
PFF
11th ranked player on Tulane's defense.
733 snaps
65.0 overall
64.9 vs run
65.7 vs pass
Just to compare to LSU
PFF
11th ranked player on Tulane's defense.
733 snaps
65.0 overall
64.9 vs run
65.7 vs pass
Just to compare to LSU
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Jordan Jefferson
413 snaps
70.5 overall
72.4 vs run
61.0 vs pass
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Jacobian Guillory
69.0 overall
69.2 vs Run
69.1 vs pass
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Maason Smith
582 snaps
65.3 overall
64.1 vs run
76.5 vs pass
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:02 pm to Captain Crown
I think so. I don’t know how it translates to the SEC, but 5.5 sacks for a DT is pretty good. I only watched him against Ole Miss, but he was consistently getting pressure from the interior. He looked strong, and pretty quick with good block shedding ability.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:08 pm to Lester Earl
So he’d be basically just another body
Need the kid from Indiana bad
Need the kid from Indiana bad
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:11 pm to sunnydaze
He was not as good as LSU’s guys(who were meh) going against much, much worse competition
He is a body they could use at this point for sure, tho
He is a body they could use at this point for sure, tho
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not saying he's as talented athletically as Jefferson, but he's more than just a body IMO. Would be a good get.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:44 pm to Captain Crown
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No. He was probably overrated in high school as a top 300 player… but if we’re after a RB, it would just be for capable depth behind Jackson, Williams, and Durham. I doubt we find a productive player who wants to be the third or fourth guy in the room, but we still need another RB.
No. He was probably overrated in high school as a top 300 player… but if we’re after a RB, it would just be for capable depth behind Jackson, Williams, and Durham. I doubt we find a productive player who wants to be the third or fourth guy in the room, but we still need another RB.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:09 am to sunnydaze
Most kids we'll be able to go after will be "just another body" perceptionally. We aren't the only school in need of DTs, the SEC kids are off the board, and most are guys that weren't going to play at their previous school. Have to trust that whoever we get can provide quality snaps for a year and hope we get lucky and one possibly plays over his head. Competition for perceived "top" guys will be fierce. Take the Blidi kid for example. Lots of suitors for an average Dlineman from Indiana.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:11 am to Captain Crown
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Has he been productive?
Yes he has:
2022 Stats- started all 14 games. Tackles- 39 (22 solo, 17 assisted), 9 TFL, 3 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 4 QB hurries, 1 safety. Safety them within 6 points of USC in the bowl game and Tulane beat USC. I would say that is an amazing stat line for a interior guy with a lot of flavor.
2023 Stats- 13 starts. Tackles- 32 (20 solo, 12 assisted), 12 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 4 QB hurries
All I saw was he was playing a great game against Ole Miss and pressuring the QB a lot.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:14 am to Lester Earl
PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good. I’ll go find the video and post it later of NFL coaches and players shitting on it bc the guys doing the breakdowns don’t know the what the assignment of that player was especially on defense. How can you grade if I guy had a successful snap if you aren’t sure of their assignment.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:24 am to redfishfan
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PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good.
I mean its a completely impartial view that's going to be as unbiased as it comes to grade someone over every single snap they play, not just the 3 or 4 plays you remember that were really bad or really good. The common issue regular people have forming an opinion on a player is they only remember those few extreme plays from a game and have no recollection of anything else. Raw stats dont prove anything really. You could have a linebacker get 14 tackles in a game and played pretty poorly. Likewise you could have a DT play a gret game and maybe they had 1 tackle on the stat sheet. Nobody on here is watching every snap of every player in the portal and could determine how good they are. So PFF seems like a pretty good source to cite in determining how good a player might be overall.
Generally speaking, if you're a better player, your grades will be higher. Who cares if they mess up a few things here and there, the collective amount which is vast shouldnt be far off. They dont need to know every single assignment on every play, in the end of the collective amount of grades, it will be pretty representative of a player generally speaking. Is it the end all be all? No, but I'd trust their system grading out a guy over 3-4 years over some rando on the internet that says something like "well I saw him play well in this 1 game for this 1 quarter, so he's great!" if you will.
For example with Jenkins he got a lot pressure on QBs last season, but still only ended up with a above average pass rush grade. This could be for a multitude of reasons people arent thinking about at all. Maybe he over-pursued taking himself out of a lot of other plays, etc...
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:45 am to nicholastiger
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Diggs is likely missing majority of season at Ole Miss with his injury
What happened to Diggs?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:56 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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What happened to Diggs?
He tore his ACL in bowl game.
Ole Miss believes he'll be ready for the start of the season though. ACL tears can be hit and miss for recovery time. 8 months is probably a tad optimistic from their side. But it wouldnt surprise me if he's definitely playing by SEC play.
Issue with Diggs is he was just injured seemingly half the time here, and with the ACL tear to end last season, just no idea what you could possibly get from him for 1 final season next season. We obviously couldnt gamble a scholarship on a RB who may or may not be able to contribute, especially now in hindsight with Holly at least off the team for next season it appears.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:10 am to redfishfan
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PFF is a really dumb way to determine if somebody is actually good.
As opposed to one tigerdropping poster who watched him play 1H vs Ole miss?
I’ve been posting here a long time, and the general public is absolutely clueless most of the time with any action that happens away from the ball.
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I’ll go find the video and post it later of NFL coaches and players shitting on it bc the guys doing the breakdowns don’t know the what the assignment of that player was especially on defense
The same team’s front offices & scouting departments are using PFF data to analyze players

Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:35 am to Wrucker16
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If we land Jenkins and Blidi our DT issues are fixed for 2024.
Would be enormous for the season. I think getting those 2 guys vs. getting no one is the difference in another win or two just because I could see our DL getting completely worn out in the 4th quarter and getting leaned on when we need stops.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:40 am to thunderbird1100
PFF can be misleading for sure. It's just another data point, but you need other data points. At the same time, it can be valuable. It just depends.
He could've faced double teams and teams may have game planned against him in conference play especially because he was their best interior DL guy, which isn't picked up in the stats. I could also see USC and Ole Miss leaving him 1 on 1 and not focusing on him because they thought their talent level was better.
He could've faced double teams and teams may have game planned against him in conference play especially because he was their best interior DL guy, which isn't picked up in the stats. I could also see USC and Ole Miss leaving him 1 on 1 and not focusing on him because they thought their talent level was better.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 10:43 am
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