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re: Should Goodrich Have Had a Commit-able Offer In December?

Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:37 pm to
what makes you think he didn't have an offer in December? Are you talking about before the early signing period or after? If he would have committed before Chase did, he may have been on the team right now. When it came down to just 2 spots, we were holding one for Surtain and that left one for either Foster or Goodrich. The staff seemed to really want a QB in this class, thus they made Goodrich an offer that if Foster didn't commit (or one of the other commits fell through or if Surtain didn't sign) then he would be a take.

I would think that if Goodrich would have wanted to commit during the early signing period we would have bumped another player out of the class (Washington was already bumped out and a backup plan). Maybe Provens would have been bumped out in favor of Goodrich.

edit:just looked up the early signing date, it was December 20-22. So you are talking about prior to that date. Pretty sure he had an offer at that time and definitely could have committed and signed. Your not going to sign a Sheffer, Provins, or Livingston over a Goodrich.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 7:42 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16049 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:44 pm to
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Yes. He was a better prospect than Washington. Could’ve had his slot anytime he wanted.



Yes I'm pretty sure that was open to him in the early signing period. Washington was already a backup plan by then.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16049 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:49 pm to
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If you have two great players at a single position be prepared to take both of them.


yes their are probably a couple they could have bumped out of the early signing class but then you might be looking at a class of 21 right now instead of a class of 23. NO telling how the guys who got bumped would take it.

Recruiting is a lot trickier now with the early signing period and with over signing no longer allowed.
Posted by geauxtigers34
Member since Nov 2016
56 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:41 pm to
When SurtaIn didn’t commit in December then they should have gone all in on Goodrich period. If Surtain came around I would have dropped the kicker.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 1:30 am to
I don't think Surtain was scared of competition. Bama had what: close to a third of their class were CBs. The consensus was Goodrich was a better player than Foster. Both were at positions of need and yes QB is THE position. Still,if Goodrich wanted in you don't tell him to "wait". Kid could have gone anywhere. Time always tell,but when O said LSU was one day late....that is a screw up.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15709 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:33 am to
I think Goodrich's talent is high enough that you absolutely give him a committable offer.

The mistake was chasing Foster. I know we wanted to have a QB in the class, but I really was more rationalizing his worth vs believing he was actually a good prospect. He might be great, but I'm not so sure.

If nothing else we should have gone to the two and said we have one scholly. First silent commit gets it. Of course worded a little more diplomatically.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:27 pm to
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they thought Goodrich was #4 tells me they had no clue what they were doing.


Agreed. Goodrich was clearly the obvious take. Foster was such a longshot anyway, putting Goodrich off to wait on him was really dumb.
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2285 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:54 pm to
Honestly I don’t think the early signing period has anything to do with how a recruit chooses his final destination. Those recruits that went elsewhere were going to go there regardless. If they wanted to be at LSU they would have signed here period.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20944 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:35 pm to
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I don’t get prioritization of Foster over Goodrich.


We are really low on Scholarship QB's. We have three and one I believe will be eligible to exit in May as a Grad Transfer... McMillan sent out some cryptic tweets at the end of last season that hinted toward this.
Posted by jman
Member since Feb 2007
602 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:25 pm to
YES! LSU drop the ball
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29998 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:32 am to
Goodrich is basically rated a top 100 player in the country. At a position we lost all of our starters. Also a position we ended up getting zero recruits at this year. Yes he should have been wrapped up whenever we could have got him. His recruitment is my biggest problem with this recruiting cycle and coach O should have kept this debacle a secret. Lol
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 10:34 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29998 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:37 am to
[quote]Ryan Perriloux was a signing day guy[/quote

So 12 years ago? Lol
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27914 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:05 am to
If that was the issue shame on the staff. My thought was they wanted foster so they held out for him. He was never coming to lsu. Should have took Goodrich.
Posted by CatDaddy3
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
107 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:30 pm to
Be real, O fracked this up real good. Our bafoon Head Coach was a a good DL coach and recruiter. However when he assumed the top job it has become abundantly clear that he is incapable of carrying out those duties required of a Head Football Coach at a major university. Therefore, LSU should immediately begin vetting possible replacement candidates! No consideration should be given to anyone on staff. Once and forever LSU needs to implement a back up plan!!!
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
105921 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:56 pm to
O should have sensed something was wrong with Surtain when he didn’t sign in December
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:18 pm to
Foster was NEVER coming here, but our HC refused to believe it.
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