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Posted on 3/6/22 at 11:20 am to LauraGB
Posted on 3/6/22 at 11:20 am to LauraGB
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Do y’all think DD would consider coming back if things get too out of hand? She still seems to be really involved judging at intersquads and attending meets. I can totally see that happening!
Jay is coaching a top 5 program with its two biggest stars injury riddled and limited in an incredibly competitive conference. Can you identify any other coaches who have dealt with those obstacles and still reached the levels they have. Remember the SEC moved their postponed home meet vs Arkansas to a tri meet in Missouri on a Sunday after a Friday meet. Any other top 4 coaches deal with this?
In addition to the loss at Missouri under this scenario they had a close road loss to top four Florida who was egregiously overscored on floor and a judging rules bending debacle vs Kentucky loss. Two of those losses were to programs which have become stronger after seeing what D D accomplished with more support from their athletic department.
No doubt the coaches need to firm up the lineups and establish the top 6 in each rotation. Getting Kiya Johnson and Haleigh Bryant healthy enough for all around will cure a lot of ills. The return of Kai Rivers would be an added boost, but this seems very questionable. If the two super stars are in the lineup and the young gymnasts don't wilt in the bright lights of nationals this team could be a force to be reckoned with. Replacing Jay with anyone else , even DD is absurd.
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Posted on 3/6/22 at 11:31 am to tigersbb
Kiya and Haleigh in the AA would be a dramatic help. Its the surrounding routines IMO that need to be better overall for LSU to have any type of shot.
But counting on Kiya to do AA every week minus post season isn't feasible, her body isnt cooperating with her. Thats not her or anyones fault but that means there is work to be done.
There needs to be more risk taking to develop routines with higher upside instead of settling for routines that typically score okay but not great. But it seems a little too late now, we have Utah then hit post season after.
But counting on Kiya to do AA every week minus post season isn't feasible, her body isnt cooperating with her. Thats not her or anyones fault but that means there is work to be done.
There needs to be more risk taking to develop routines with higher upside instead of settling for routines that typically score okay but not great. But it seems a little too late now, we have Utah then hit post season after.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 3:24 pm to Tigerbait357
Posted on 3/6/22 at 3:27 pm to Bayougallc
Alabama got 2 198's this weekend lol
I see UCLA got a 198 also, what is that 6 or so 198's this weekend?
I see UCLA got a 198 also, what is that 6 or so 198's this weekend?
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 4:19 pm to Tigerbait357
Yes, it's wild. By the way, I just did the RQS for LSU, Auburn and Alabama. Looks like we need a great meet next weekend to be in the top half of the rankings. The girls can do it if the scoring isn't wonky.
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Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:10 pm to Bayougallc
So you mean the top half of the sec - or the top half of the top half? I don’t think there is anyway Kentucky/Missouri cst h the top 4. However, with the Suni bump we’re seeing and the general bonkers scoring this weekend along with our subpar performance, we might be seeded last which means we will end on beam. Historically not a great position for us (or at least since gnat graduated)
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:26 pm to LSUgymfan420
RQS standings:
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:31 pm to Tigerbait357
Starting on floor and ending on beam at SECs….yikes.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:39 pm to LSUgymfan420
What’s the Suni bump. She’s one of the best in college gymnastics. I don’t feel like Auburns scoring has been to far off from the other overscoring of Florida and Oklahoma. Goubourne and Groth are stars as well. I think a lot has to be credited to the coaching staff. Of all the Olympian’s Suni and Jade have been the most consistent and dominent. If u look at the teams UCLA should be at the top with the top teams. Oregon State not so much.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:46 pm to Sofly225
My opinion is that without Suni auburn’s other gymnasts would not be scoring nearly as high. That can be attributed to potentially a lot of things - working harder in the gym because Suni is there, or judging bias which skews higher because as impartial as judges try to be they know who Suni is and when they are judging her and her team (just to name two reasons s). As someone mentioned above, it’s going to be a thorn in our side as long she is at auburn.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:51 pm to Sofly225
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What’s the Suni bump.
I think its about the routines surrounding Suni. Historically they have never scored anywhere near this level. Suni's scores are well deserved but certainly judges feed off the hype, name recognition she brings. The highest Auburn scored last season was a 197.125, and then they turn around and go 198.500+?
But this isnt a Auburn problem, this is a college gymnastics scoring issue. Its gotten out of control over the years but its certainly trended for the worst this year. We have lost the ability to distinguish good and great routines. Routines with flexed feet and form issues are getting the same level of scores near similar routines with superior form. Then you have routines with clear mistakes and large landing issues getting minimal taken away. The Auburn/Florida meet hysterical to me, 9.925 for everyone if you landed on your feet.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:18 pm to Tigerbait357
Suni Lee is great and might end up the greatest NCAA gymnast of all time when it is all said and done, but it's the effect the scoring has on others.
In the Florida meet, Gobourne's bars were laughably over scored. It should have been a score they were looking to drop, but it gets a 9.9 because she stuck the landing and because it's just a 9.9 don't ask questions. Similar thing to Watson's floor. That floor wasn't much different than some of our floors vs. Kentucky and had visible deductions, but she gets a 9.925 because reasons.
In the Florida meet, Gobourne's bars were laughably over scored. It should have been a score they were looking to drop, but it gets a 9.9 because she stuck the landing and because it's just a 9.9 don't ask questions. Similar thing to Watson's floor. That floor wasn't much different than some of our floors vs. Kentucky and had visible deductions, but she gets a 9.925 because reasons.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:19 pm to Tigerbait357
Alabama doesn't have another meet. They are done until the SEC meet. They have two 198 scores and was able to factor in one for this week's NQS. Auburn goes to Michigan next weekend. Only heaven knows what that score will be. We have a chance to move up if we have an outstanding meet with Utah. Otherwise, we may be the 4th spot in the night session of the SEC meet.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:33 pm to Bayougallc
We NEED those judges from the Florida vs. Auburn meet on Friday. Would love it if we could count a 198 score. And superglue the beam cap please!
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:37 pm to Tigerbait357
Why is NQS a thing and not just taking the average? Based on this Bama's average is pretty significantly behind both ours and Auburn's.
I can barely stomach the Auburn lovefest much less throwing Bama back into that
I can barely stomach the Auburn lovefest much less throwing Bama back into that
Posted on 3/6/22 at 9:07 pm to shaquilleoatmeal
If my calculations are correct we need a 197.650 this week against Utah to pass Bama on NQS, with them being idle! Now Auburn, no telling what they may score at Mich. So it appears to me we probably will go to SECs as #6 on NQS.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:43 am to East Texas Tiger 99
Someone made a post on Twitter regarding a football coach a while back saying he was a great recruiter but not necessarily a good coach. Can’t exactly remember which coach or school they were referring to. Could that be the case at LSU? Jay hasn’t developed much of his talent over the years. Haleigh and Kiya are just great athletes. Not much development needed with them. Finnegan and Priessman were world class elites. Nothing to do there. I guess I just haven’t noticed much development over the years. Hambrick, Gnat, and Ewing were all self motivated. Not sure how much Jay had to push them to get better.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:55 am to tlricks04
I’m not off the Jay wagon but next year will probably tell us a lot more once those super seniors are gone and it will be his third full season as HC.
But you do have coaches in every sport where they are better recruiters than they are developers of talent and vice Versa.
But you do have coaches in every sport where they are better recruiters than they are developers of talent and vice Versa.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:42 pm to LauraGB
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Do y’all think DD would consider coming back if things get too out of hand? She still seems to be really involved judging at intersquads and attending meets. I can totally see that happening!
Hopefully not. I think the goal is to win a national championship, she coached for 768 years and never won one. Time to see if Jay can do it. I think next year and the year after this team will have a legit shot at it. If you finish top 4 this year, you've done a really good job.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:02 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Not sure if y’all remember but last year Utah’s Mailie O’Keefe was the one that called out LSU over their Covid protocols. I’ve never cared for the girl or Utah since. I hope we beat the brakes off them.
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