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I like Maggie Nichols and she seems like a really sweet girl but is anyone else tired of hearing about her being the goat and winning all these awards? In my eyes she wasn’t even the best of her class (Kyla gets that). I saw espn’s top 10 gym things of 2020 and her 2 tens they showed for her were not 10’s at all. This will sound very mean but I’m glad her and kyla’s college run is over because I’m tired of the overscoring and constant talk of them.

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You aint wrong. Nichols is terrific and one of the best to go through NCAA but she certainly got a lot of gifts over the years being at OU. Judges ignoring landings with her feet so wide and squatting down, missed handstands. and leg separations yet judges continue to throw out 10s just because of her name and the OU leotard.

Ross was easily the best senior of this past class, her execution is superb.My only knock on Ross is she literally does the bare minimum in some of her routines. It became sorta boring to watch after a while.

I have all the respect in the world for Trinity Thomas who actually combines superb execution with difficulty that goes above the minimum. Which makes her much more enjoyable to watch than the other two for me.

Aleah's surgery went really well and she is recovering right now. She will have plenty of time to heal up with the shut down.

Also with a much better idea of the roster for next year

Vault Options:

Kai Rivers (potential 10.0 vault)
Maddie Rau (10.0 vault)
Olivia Dunne
Elena Arenas (Potential 10.0 vault)
Bailey Ferrer (10.0 Vault)
Haleigh Bryant (10.0 Vault)
Sarah Edwards (10.0 vault)
Kiya Johnson (10.0 vault)
Chase Brock (10.0 vault)
Kamry Ryan (previously trained 1.5)
Alyona Shchennikova (potential 10.0)
Other vaulters- Durante, Nibbs and D'Antonio.

We have a lot more options top to bottom with potential to upgrade many vaults. Olivia has never done more than a full in competition so I am doubtful they upgrade her. They may stick to clean and consistent. Arenas I think they try to bring her to a 1.5 vault. Kai if the ankle is in much better shape is sure bet to do a 10.0 vault unless there are significant issues. Adding a healthy Ryan and Alyona to vault also changes things. Alyona was vaulting really well prior to the season ending. The plan I think is to get a 1.5 out there, she did a double as an elite. Ferrer is expected to be back. I am taking the wait and see approach to her vault right now but the matter is she adds depth. I don't think Nibbs, D'Antonio and Durante will be heavy contributors but will still train to provide some safe space.

Bars Options:

Kiya Johnson
Kai Rivers
Haleigh Bryant
Olivia Dunne
Elena Arenas
Alyona Shchennikova
Sami Durante
Bridget Dean
Caitlin Smith (maybe)
Bailey Ferrer

I think the core of the routines remain the same next year. I think there will be an adjustment to Alyona's routine. LSU and Jay Clark have in the past put out very difficult routines freshmen year before dialing back on difficulty in the future. Kai's bars were very labored this season for whatever reason, I think if she has a full offseason to clean up and into better training shape she can be much better. Dunne I think they do a double layout or full in. Jay historically has not liked using a double tuck in routines as dismounts. I think Dean provides depth but will not be a regular in the lineup. As much as she has improved there are still form stuff. I have a question mark on smith but her and Ferrer seem like Depth at this point. Nice to have depth though.

Beam Options:

Christina Desiderio
Bridget Dean
Sami Durante
Kiya Johnson
Kai Rivers
Alyona Shchennikova
Olivia Dunne
Haleigh bryant
Elena Arenas
Rebecca D'Antonio
Sierra Ballard
Regan Campbell

I think the core remains the same this coming years. but there are spots in the lineup that could be potentially upgraded. I think Olivia Dunne is going to slide towards the back of the lineup on beam. I think Haleigh Bryant takes a spot from a returner but everything else will be the same IMO. Alyona has a lot of potential but sometimes isn't the most consistent. I would love to see what she can do with a full offseason to train. She may surprise a lot of people. Rebecca has improved significantly over the last year. Excellent depth though across the board. For the love of god, please improve the leaps and toe point on this event.


Floor Options:

Kai Rivers
Alyona Shchennikova
Kiya Johnson
Bailey Ferrer
Christina Desiderio
Bridget Dean
Reagan Campbell
Haleigh Bryant
Olivia Dunne
Elena Arenas
Courtney Goodrich
Sarah Edwards
Olivia Gunter

Talk about. what one offseason could do for an event. I think the freshmen play the biggest role here. Bryant, Dunne and Arenas all have a strong shot to make the lineup or contribute. X factor here is Kai Rivers but it all comes down to if she can keep her ankle healthy. Desiderio needs to keep the same routine composition. I am taking the wait and approach again to Ferrer with the year off. Floor has always been Alyona's weakest event, well as an elite anyways but we will see. Coaches have reported she has tremendous upside here and think she could be a big contributor. I. think Dean and Gunter add depth but are not regulars in this lineup. This lineup will have a heavy mix of different tumbling ranging from double layouts, to front double full, front double tuck, 2 1/2 twist. Lets hope the choreography actually improves this year. We need better creativity.

On paper this all looks like a very very different team next year with kids healthy and adding that big time freshmen class. I did not mention Sierra Ballard and Chase Brock a lot, I think they could contribute at some point but not much next year with the depth in front of them. Sierra is a beamer though.

Tigerbait, thanks for giving us something to look forward to! It is still sad to think that we should have been in Fort Worth last weekend.

A few questions:
Is Aleah in the class of 2022?
You don’t have Reagan in your beam lineup. Just an oversight I hope!
Do you think Bailey will be as good or better than she was as a freshman? According to her Instagram, she sure is working out a lot.

Thanks!

[quote]She kept it private and has continued to do so over the course of the last year and it’s honestly a violation of her privacy and HIPAA compliance, especially since she came to college as a minor and signed her NLI as one and is still protected under that contract and other NCAA athletics

Certainly its wise to use discretion when discussing personal information about anyone, However, HIPPA rules do not apply to individuals making comments, speculative or not. The laws o slander might apply if the comments are false and malicious and damages can be shown.

The HIPPA rules do apply to LSU and anyone who might get information via their position and relationship to the athlete.

I would agree with you that posters on this board should not engage in harmful and ofen false or partially false commentary about LSU athletes and recruits. Tigerbait357 appears to have many contacts in the gymnastics world and often posts very insightful information. Of course with the privelege of inside sources comes the responsibility to exercise discretion and respect for the well being of others.

I would imagine whatever he stated regarding Bailey Ferrer is essentially accurate and I don't think he intended any harm. Sometimes its better to comment as fully as possible as releasing just enough information to spark unfounded rumors can be more harmful.

Your advice is well placed in general and hopefully anyone posting sensitive information will consider its verifiable accuracy, the impact on the individual when the information is released, and your own personal motivation in release of the information. Imagine the athlete being your child and be guided accordingly.

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I do follow other collegiate sports. But just because it happens doesn’t mean it’s okay. These athletes dedicate and give so much to their sports and for the fans of their own universities to have negative speculations against them when they don’t have the facts is just sad

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Just want to let you and everyone else know, Bailey is not leaving the team. As a matter fact she has announced she’s making a very big comeback and it was announced By Bailey, she would return her junior year, prior to this past season beginning. She is now stronger than ever and training at full capacity. Ferrer is coming back and stronger than ever and about 1/2 of athletes on scholarship at one point in their college careers take a year off for personal reasons and come back better than ever and Bailey will be one of them

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Who are you trying to convince?

Interesting that LSU is ranked #6 in CGN's Way Too Early 2021 Power Rankings.

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I just hope Alyona, Kai and Kiya can get completely healthy from last year’s freshman class. I think the incoming freshman class will be fine health wise.