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Recruiting these days is nothing more than comical
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:14 am
These KIDS are suddenly becoming millionaires and are doing NOTHING other than chasing money. They use words like... "Committed", "Respect my decision", "It's God's plan", and a multitude of others. But these are raised by parents that want nothing more than money for themselves, provided by their kids because well, THEY couldn't.
I truly believe there may be less than 5% of recruits that actually go play for a coach because they feel that they will get significantly better and NFL ready. Everyone else... it's money now, and they are gambling on being good enough. If ECU were to offer Underwood, or Phillips, or any other top recruit more money than they are currently being offered.... their "commitment" would change. If you believe otherwise, then I believe that you're are pretty blind.
But hey, more than likely these kids will be broke before getting to the NFL and then broke again once they're in the NFL. Their parents will be broke after draining them of money and at some point, college sports will be dead.
I truly believe there may be less than 5% of recruits that actually go play for a coach because they feel that they will get significantly better and NFL ready. Everyone else... it's money now, and they are gambling on being good enough. If ECU were to offer Underwood, or Phillips, or any other top recruit more money than they are currently being offered.... their "commitment" would change. If you believe otherwise, then I believe that you're are pretty blind.
But hey, more than likely these kids will be broke before getting to the NFL and then broke again once they're in the NFL. Their parents will be broke after draining them of money and at some point, college sports will be dead.
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:17 am to SouthernInsanity
The NCAA needs to put regulations on this NIL crap. It's quickly ruining college football and the game many of us love.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:31 am to SouthernInsanity
The odds of making it to the NFL are low. There is a marketplace for college athletes. Why should they not attempt to maximize their value? What if someone had an 18 year old son who happened to be the best engineer in the country and several big firms were in a bidding war for his services. Would it be wrong for him to try to negotiate the absolutely highest compensation package possible? Of course not. But you don't care because you don't follow/watch engineering firms for entertainment purposes.
Is it frustrating as a fan to watch the perpetual, often public, bidding wars play out in college sports? Sure. But I'm not going to chastise any kid for trying to maximize the amount of money someone is willing to pay him for his services. To a large extent we all try to do that. I don't know what you do for a living, but if a competitor offered you double, triple what your current employer pays you to do the same job I suspect your "commitment" would change. As far as being upset about the public nature of the negations there is an easy solution...just don't get that invested in it. I've always found it a bit odd that grown men become irrationally angry over the whims of 18 year old kids.
That may be true in many instances. But that is their money to use as they see fit and I'm not going to criticize someone for trying to get as much as possible. The flip side is with shrewd negotiations and a sound investment/financial strategy these guys could earn life changing money at 18 years old and use it to have a very high quality remainder of their life.
Is it frustrating as a fan to watch the perpetual, often public, bidding wars play out in college sports? Sure. But I'm not going to chastise any kid for trying to maximize the amount of money someone is willing to pay him for his services. To a large extent we all try to do that. I don't know what you do for a living, but if a competitor offered you double, triple what your current employer pays you to do the same job I suspect your "commitment" would change. As far as being upset about the public nature of the negations there is an easy solution...just don't get that invested in it. I've always found it a bit odd that grown men become irrationally angry over the whims of 18 year old kids.
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But hey, more than likely these kids will be broke before getting to the NFL and then broke again once they're in the NFL. Their parents will be broke after draining them of money and at some point,
That may be true in many instances. But that is their money to use as they see fit and I'm not going to criticize someone for trying to get as much as possible. The flip side is with shrewd negotiations and a sound investment/financial strategy these guys could earn life changing money at 18 years old and use it to have a very high quality remainder of their life.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:31 am to SouthernInsanity
I hate the system, but its hard to blame the players.
Put yourself in their position. 17-18 years old, a lot of them come from poor backgrounds, and someone is dangling a few hundred grand a year in front of you to go play football for their school. Would you turn down a bigger offer?
This is all the NCAA's fault for being such hardasses on their amateur eligibility rules for decades. If they'd have let players make some extra money signing autographs, making personal appearances, doing a commercial for the local car dealership, or getting a cut of jersey sales then they wouldn't be in the position where players sued and now the courts have bitch slapped every attempt at reasonable regulation of NIL. All because they wanted to suspend or take away a player's eligibility because they let a booster buy them lunch or they made a few bucks to party on the weekend by selling some old memorabilia.
Put yourself in their position. 17-18 years old, a lot of them come from poor backgrounds, and someone is dangling a few hundred grand a year in front of you to go play football for their school. Would you turn down a bigger offer?
This is all the NCAA's fault for being such hardasses on their amateur eligibility rules for decades. If they'd have let players make some extra money signing autographs, making personal appearances, doing a commercial for the local car dealership, or getting a cut of jersey sales then they wouldn't be in the position where players sued and now the courts have bitch slapped every attempt at reasonable regulation of NIL. All because they wanted to suspend or take away a player's eligibility because they let a booster buy them lunch or they made a few bucks to party on the weekend by selling some old memorabilia.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:35 am to SouthernInsanity
It’s a joke. I quit seriously following recruiting around the time they started putting hats on tables and doing switcheroos on live tv. Once they’re Tigers I support them. Before that, frick em.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:56 am to SouthernInsanity
The entire framework of recruiting has been set by sites like Rivals, 247, and On3
They all share the same infrastructure and general idea of what recruiting is. It’s time for those sites to die and for people to stop using terms like “commitment” and “flip”
To a degree everyone has always been a paid mercenary but it’s 100 times worse now. Treat every kid like they’re a free agent until they suit up in the fall.
They all share the same infrastructure and general idea of what recruiting is. It’s time for those sites to die and for people to stop using terms like “commitment” and “flip”
To a degree everyone has always been a paid mercenary but it’s 100 times worse now. Treat every kid like they’re a free agent until they suit up in the fall.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:58 am to SouthernInsanity
It’s really hard to be mad at these kids when they’re offered this type of money. Sure I am irrationally mad at their decisions and “flips” but damn dude, this money if life changing. Football is temporary and that’s the reality. NCAA needs to figure this out quick or in a few years the haves will be way out in front of the have nots.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:44 am to Alt26
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The odds of making it to the NFL are low. There is a marketplace for college athletes. Why should they not attempt to maximize their value? What if someone had an 18 year old son who happened to be the best engineer in the country and several big firms were in a bidding war for his services. Would it be wrong for him to try to negotiate the absolutely highest compensation package possible? Of course not. But you don't care because you don't follow/watch engineering firms for entertainment purposes.
i think where most have issue with this is, those firms hire people under a contract and they are all professionals. this is supposed to be "amateur athletes", and with the free transfer portal, no contracts or obligations to be held accountable to, your comparison really isn't even close, other than large sums of money being offered.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:47 am to SouthernInsanity
Yeah. I used to be knee deep into recruiting but, as per usual, the government put their hand into something and fricked it all up.
There’s really no reason to pay attention to any of it except on signing day to see who they ultimately get
All you guys that religiously follow it anymore are just setting yourself up for frustration and high blood pressure.
I’ve come a long way from being on this board all the time to barely checking it on a weekly basis. There’s no use in checking it anymore. I don’t even subscribe to On3 anymore because of the NIL and transfers.
Open free agent market for 17 year old kids that barely even know themselves and these people are giving them millions of dollars and more money than NFL players. It’s ridiculous.
It’s sad because I really enjoyed following it but I just can’t anymore.
There’s really no reason to pay attention to any of it except on signing day to see who they ultimately get
All you guys that religiously follow it anymore are just setting yourself up for frustration and high blood pressure.
I’ve come a long way from being on this board all the time to barely checking it on a weekly basis. There’s no use in checking it anymore. I don’t even subscribe to On3 anymore because of the NIL and transfers.
Open free agent market for 17 year old kids that barely even know themselves and these people are giving them millions of dollars and more money than NFL players. It’s ridiculous.
It’s sad because I really enjoyed following it but I just can’t anymore.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:52 am to caliegeaux
We're all chasing money. Why is it a problem that young athletes are doing it?
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:56 am to AlldayTiger
If you are waiting for the NCAA to fix this you will be waiting for a long time. They created this fricked up system and are in no hurry to fix it
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:56 am to Dicken Nuggets
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We all chasing money. Why is it a problem that young athletes are doing it?
You can’t fault the kids for chasing money. No one would.
I put the blame on the guys giving up their money to kids that haven’t even set foot on a college football field.
Based on professional salaries, there’s absolutely ZERO reason these kids should be getting paid what they’re getting. ZERO.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:03 pm to Dicken Nuggets
again, i don't think most are upset with them getting money. its the free transfer on top of that along with the fact there is no structure\accountability. the NFL has a salary cap...so now rich teams win. if this keeps pace, good luck with TV contracts in 5-10 years when a large portion of the nation, whose teams are no longer relevant, quit watching.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:36 pm to Prominentwon
As a capitalist I believe in a “self-correcting market” and, in time, these NIL boosters will learn to be more prudent with their cash if big name recruits sit on bench / don’t pan out / transfer out before seeing field. I think they will start allowing performance based bonuses for snap counts, playing in the bowl game and NOT transferring out ie escrow certain cash payments payable only at end of year 3, otherwise forfeited.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:37 pm to Prominentwon
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I put the blame on the guys giving up their money to kids that haven’t even set foot on a college football field.
When you have that type of money, you can spend it (pretty much) however you want.
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