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re: Realistic expectations for Stephen Sullivan?

Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Who the frick are you the comic relief around here, get your unemployed arse back into your mom's basement where you belong.


Posted by Jester
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Taking the conversation back to the 3rd grade was pointless and isn't even relevant to the topic in the thread.


Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:27 pm to
Don't know. I don't remember the last time we've had a 6'5 or 6'6 WR play for us. Yes I know we have Ferguson, but I wouldn't consider what he has done as "played".

It's a whole new area for us. If he can be close to what Green-Beckham was in his second year at Mizzu, then I'm satisfied.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted by CajunPowa
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:29 pm to
Back to the original topic, are Sullivan and Ferguson, from a football perspective, about the same from a size\athletic ability point of view?
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by CoachKlein
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:32 pm to
2-3 Bilitnikofs
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Don't know. I don't remember the last time we've had a 6'5 or 6'6 WR play for us. Yes I know we have Ferguson, but I wouldn't consider what he has done as "played".

It's a whole new area for us. If he can be close to what Green-Beckham was in his second year at Mizzu, then I'm satisfied.



People always talk about Cam and QBs, but I'd be interested to look at the types of WRs that flourished under his watch.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Taking the conversation back to the 3rd grade was pointless and isn't even relevant to the topic in the thread.
No offense, but your post required Jester to take the conversation back to the second grade.

You should consider yourself lucky that Jester stopped short.
Posted by CajunPowa
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:42 pm to
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People always talk about Cam and QBs, but I'd be interested to look at the types of WRs that flourished under his watch.


Good point actually, have there been any receivers that have really made a huge impact in the NFL where he was the offensive co-ordinator??

A highly rated 4 star recruit should end up being more than simply a chuck the ball into the endzone near the goal line receiver. At least we all better hope Sullivan can bring more to the table than just that, I would like to think we are selling him short to think that's the best he could be.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:55 pm to
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have there been any receivers that have really made a huge impact in the NFL where he was the offensive co-ordinator??


Antonio Gates
Posted by CajunPowa
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:02 pm to
I almost said Steve Smith, but Cameron was not the O-Coordinator for the years Smith played for the Ravens. Even if he would have been it wouldn't have mattered, because Smith was already a great receiver when he was in a Carolina uniform before the Ravens.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28062 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:37 pm to
Derrick Mason, but he was already really good before Cam got there. I guess Torrey Smith is the only true one.

He had more known RBs and QBs like Brees, Rivers, Flacco, Tomlinson and Rice and Gates at TE. He did have Dennis Pitta at TE who did pretty well his 3 years with him, but has since been a non factor.

If we are to be a little more lenient, Mason didn't drop off on his watch and Boldin was fairly decent. Mason had two 1000 yard seasons and Boldin had at least 830 yards every year with him.
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:48 pm to
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Don't know. I don't remember the last time we've had a 6'5 or 6'6 WR play for us.


Terrance Tolliver
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28062 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Terrance Tolliver


He had a couple ok years at LSU. He's not close to being as big as Sullivan though. Toliver hovered around 200 lbs, while Sullivan likely comes in at 6'6 230.

He has potential to be a Mike Evans type of WR.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5747 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:20 pm to
To be honest, the little I've seen of Dee Anderson reminds me of Toliver.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1728 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:32 pm to
Sullivan's feet and hip movement are elite for a guy his size. You may need to take another look at his videos.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3999 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:11 pm to
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EJ Howard 4.49


No...no...no

40 times and height are the two most over hyped facts about recruits.
Each year, there are 400+ recruits that say they can run 4.4'or better but only a handful can actually do it at the combine when electronically times.

A true 4.7 is plenty fast for a guy that size.

Hell, most of these 4.4 guys actually run a 4.7 anyway
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28062 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:52 pm to
where is his junior and senior tape?
Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
3354 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:58 pm to
I've been to LSU's camp before, and I hand timed one of my best friends who plays safety at Arkansas state at a 4.38. He ran a 4.49 laser time as a senior in HS
Posted by lsubeer
Denver
Member since Sep 2008
1233 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:49 pm to
I was thinking convert to TE kind of like peterson from a few years back...more in line with how cam's offense is designed!
Posted by reauxl tigers7
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1139 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:17 pm to
He needs to be faster in my opinion. He's got a pretty big upside from the looks of it
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