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re: RB numbers for 2014 class

Posted on 8/1/12 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/1/12 at 12:40 pm to
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we should redshirt Magee this year


would be a waste.

do you really want a 5th year RB?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:17 pm to
are they not good in their 5th year? its probably that or he becomes mcneese's RB
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
1850 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

do you really want a 5th year RB?

Addai was a 5th yr senior.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:42 pm to
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are they not good in their 5th year


RB's? Define good, if he's still here after 5 years he probably has no NFL potential or got hurt. If he RS's then has a good year in 2014, he will probably bolt anyway. If not he's just probably taking carries away from Fournette or whoever else we sign.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:44 pm to
yes because all RB situations are the same
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:45 pm to
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Addai was a 5th yr senior.


He was medical RS.

All I'm saying is, if you RS and then he plays well, he can bolt to the NFL any time after 2013 anyway, so what do you gain by not playing him a year?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:48 pm to
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yes because all RB situations are the same


I never said that. I just see no advantage. The only reason you'd want him to RS is to have him an extra year in this case the 2015 and there is no guarentee he will stay for that year.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 1:58 pm to
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I never said that. I just see no advantage. The only reason you'd want him to RS is to have him an extra year in this case the 2015 and there is no guarentee he will stay for that year


you, who was huge on the Rob Bolden will heal all bandwagon can't see it? So for Fournette's sophmore year, we will have him and whoever else we sign from his class,whatever true freshmen and maybe a senior Jeremy Hill? Sounds like an awesome rainy day plan. RBs never get hurt. Fournette is a 1000% lsu lock. You only need 1 RB anyway etc.
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:05 pm to
LF is priority #1. Get him then likely take 1 or 2 more.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12404 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:14 pm to
Paleilei is 5'9 190, which is very close to what Magee was as a hs JR. He just happens to be fast and shifty. His bulk is not an issue. Frank Wilson wants some new types of backs infused into the system. He's smart. He knows that the straight ahead, pure power, downhill style of back will not work consistently against very good defenses. UGA(1st half), Miss St and Bama(both games) proved as much. We need guys that can bring something different to the table. It's also been given as the primary reason for passing on Adam Taylor. He's no different than the backs we have. Frank wanted Ryan Green or no one. We'll take a speedier back next year.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278577 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:21 pm to
whats the deal with kennard swanson? is he moving positions?
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10582 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:24 pm to
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Addai was a 5th yr senior.


False, he played from 2002-05 and never redshirted.

I've heard reports that Magee may RS this year, not sure if they are true or not
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70399 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 10:30 pm to
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False, he played from 2002-05 and never redshirted.


Addai got to LSU in 2001 chief.

ETA: Just in case you don't believe my impeccable memory, here's my friend Wiki to help you out:
quote:

Addai started his stint at LSU in 2001, but after only two games was granted a medical redshirt.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 10:33 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27881 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:20 pm to
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He was medical RS.

He was a medical RS the same way a bunch of guys were back then....in name only.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/1/12 at 11:20 pm to
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you, who was huge on the Rob Bolden will heal all bandwagon can't see it?


you must have me confused with someone else. all i said about Bolden was, if he doesn't count against the 25 for 2013, which multiple sources have said he does not, then its basically like a free spin on a slot machine. The one caveat I did say was I hope they don't RS him

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So for Fournette's sophmore year, we will have him and whoever else we sign from his class,whatever true freshmen and maybe a senior Jeremy Hill? Sounds like an awesome rainy day plan


Weren't the RB's in 2011 a RS Soph, 2 Soph (3 if you count Gore) and 2 Fr? Sounds like a big problem.

quote:

RBs never get hurt.


Of course they get hurt. They can also transfer or go pro early. There is no guarantee that Magee would stay thru 2015 if he was RS'ed now is there.

quote:

. Fournette is a 1000% lsu lock


Far from it, but what is a lock is we will sign 2-3 RB's in 2014 and hopefully he is 1 of them. Even if he's not, there's a good chance the ones we get will be pretty good, plus we'll sign some in 2015.

quote:

You only need 1 RB anyway etc.


Nah, you need a stable, ideally, they'd be spread out a little bit, but usually some one doesn't work out. LSU has been fortunate to get several that are all good at the same time. I'm a fan of signing at least 1 QB and 1 RB in every class.
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 8:31 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:05 am to
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There is no guarantee that Magee would stay thru 2015 if he was RS'ed now is there.


so what. he is not/should not play at all this year. Same for Hill.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11306 posts
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:31 am to
As good as we are at RB, I really don't see any of our guys going pro early unless one of them has such a breakout year that his performances demands we give him the bulk of the carries.

If that's the case the we enter 2013 with the same SIX back we have now, including three Srs. I think we could take two for 2014 and still be comfortable, but might need three to protect against career injury and transfers.

If we get Fournette then we're already at one. There is usually at least one other solid in state back we can pick up.
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 9:33 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:46 am to
quote:

so what.


If there's no guarentee he will be here in 2015, what's the benefit of RS him?

quote:

he is not/should not play at all this year.


Why not? What's the benefit to him and the team if he doesn't play?


quote:

Same for Hill.


Hill didn't play last year, you think he should go from Nov/Dec 2010 whenever his last HS game was to Sept 2013 without playing a game? That makes about zero sense.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:52 am to
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As good as we are at RB, I really don't see any of our guys going pro early


you don't have to be a first round pick to go early. Ford and Ware are projected to be anywhere from late 3rd to 5th round picks. It is highly unlikely they would improve that postion by coming back to LSU in 2013. If they do come back, someone will likely transfer. The only reason to have someone RS in 2012 is to have him eligible for an extra year, which for the RB's will be 2015. There is no other benefit. And the only reason you want these guys in 2015 is because they are known commodities, the RB's we get in 2014 and 2015 are not.
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 9:54 am
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:55 am to
if all backs stay for senior yr. we will have 6 rbs that are all likely to see the field, plus 3 that havent had any pt but are juniors and sophmores.
Just get LF and we will still have 5 rb's on roster pending if kenny hilliard goes to nfl
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 9:56 am
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