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Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:59 pm to BayouCowboy
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2021 Nussmeier is the #8 QB
2022 Howard is the #3
Not saying these guys will do bad, but when you look at the QBs I've listed compared to the ones we are getting, the talent difference is obvious. I'll reserve judgement for Arch in another year. He doesn't pop off the screen yet.
Burrow was lightning in a bottle. A guy who developed over years of practice and hard work. While that is great, continued success at the most elite level requires elite QB play year in and year out. I want that 5 star Rockstar QB to carry the helm for 2-3 years. Take for example Clemson. When your generational type QB talent goes down and your backup was the #1 QB in the country and another type of generational talent, you don't worry. I mean this guy came in as a true freshman @ Notre Dame and put up 440 with 3 total TDs. True, they lost because of their defense, but a performance like that assures you of the future.
At the same time it's always good to have those other great looking QBs like Nuss and Howard to bridge the gap to your next beast QB. I like LSU's QBs on roster, I like our QBs we have committed, but we just don't have that beast that Bama, Ohio St, Clemson, and Oklahoma have.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 4:11 pm to CFF lover
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What's scary about this massive committment are implications a domino effect has potentially been opened with numerous 5*stars following Ewers to OSU.... to wit, Caleb Burton from Texas, Domani Jackson from Cali, and two or three others. As good as a recruiter that Meyers was, Day and staff are his equal, maybe better.
He was handed the keys to a Ferrari. It was Meyer that made OSU into a national brand. Tressel was great, but Meyer could pull a kid from any state.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 5:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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He was handed the keys to a Ferrari. It was Meyer that made OSU into a national brand. Tressel was great, but Meyer could pull a kid from any state.
And Day has proven to be even better.... X and O's, motivation, recruiting, game mangmt., discipline, you name it, he has no weakness. Plus more importantly, his players love him. There was a reason Fields went there, and it shows in his development. He was Burrows coach in his interim year, Developed Haskins into the most productive QB in BIG10
history, last year with Fields, and this year also, and god knows what he will do after this year with (3) 5 star QB's at his beckon. He is the best, bar non as a QB coach and one of the best HC.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 11/20/20 at 7:09 pm to Buckeye06
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Buckeye06
Your posts backfired on ya, didn't it? Stay off our board
Posted on 11/22/20 at 6:37 am to jacksajester
Burrow is not an OSU QB
Posted on 11/22/20 at 8:47 am to js1591
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Burrow is not an OSU QB
Are you stupid..... he was there for 3 years and got his Bachelors degree there.
Posted on 11/23/20 at 7:44 pm to CFF lover
I like coach day also but let’s pump the brakes a bit before declaring him better than urban Meyer.
He inherited a well oiled machine with a solid infrastructure intact.
He may end up being Alexander the Great but Alexander is nothing without Phillip II
He inherited a well oiled machine with a solid infrastructure intact.
He may end up being Alexander the Great but Alexander is nothing without Phillip II
Posted on 11/23/20 at 8:05 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Your posts backfired on ya, didn't it? Stay off our board
Oh they really backfired on me. Got a bunch of downvotes from LSU fans who are angry at OSU even though the school gave them their best player ever
Oh and #1 WR just committed to OSU for 2022 too.
I'll continue to let my posts backfire if it results in OSU getting solid players
Posted on 11/23/20 at 8:27 pm to Buckeye06
Hopefully it turns into a national
Championship for you guys one day
Championship for you guys one day
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:07 pm to jimbeam
Yea my school will be lucky to get #9 soon
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:01 am to Buckeye06
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Oh and #1 WR just committed to OSU for 2022 too.
Just saw that on CBS sports...MY GOODNESS, FOUR 5* ALREADY
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:50 am to BayouCowboy
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I don't remember many fans not wanting Fields. I think the vast majority would be pumped if he had transferred here. I wasn't sold on King, but he's done much better than I expected. I thought he was too small and his success at Houston wouldn't translate to a P5 school. I was definitely wrong on him.
Your memory is faulty then. There were many who were against Fields transferring to LSU. The same as with King, many called him a quitter, inaccurate, a bad attitude, selfish. The boilerplate put downs of those considered “DT”.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 12:04 pm to justustm2
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Your memory is faulty then. There were many who were against Fields transferring to LSU. The same as with King, many called him a quitter, inaccurate, a bad attitude, selfish. The boilerplate put downs of those considered “DT”.
I don't doubt there were some. Not sure how many, "many" was, but there were likely quite a few that thought we should take a shot with him as well.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 12:44 pm to SD Tigerz
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Not saying you are wrong, but I still don't get why people love D'Eriq King so much. The man's stats against an average ACC schedule are not any better than Brennan's, plus he and Miami looked like a JV squad against Clemson until they took the foot off the pedal. He's a solid/good QB, but LSU did not miss out on anything there. Also Fields was never coming to LSU.
You are one of those of which I speak. First off, what Miles Brennan has done versus what King has done is irrelevant. It wasn’t an either or proposition for King transferring here. Wouldn’t LSU be much better off if King was the replacement for an injured Brennan, if he didn’t outright win the starting position?
As relates to your claim that King’s stats are against an average ACC schedule, King is 4-1 against teams with a 24-17 record versus Brennan’s 1-2 against teams with a 6-17 record. Surely you are not saying the average ACC teams King has played against are worse than the teams Brennan played against. King has completed 63.7% of his passes for 17 TDs , 4 Ints for a 149 QB rating. Brennan has completed 60.3% for 11 TDs, 3 Ints for a 154.7 QB rating.
It can’t be argued that Brennan has played a harder schedule than King. In fact, the opposite is true. So King’s numbers have come against much better teams including Clemson. King’s 4-1 record and stats are against CLEM, NCST, VT, VA, and PITT. Brennan’s 1-2 record and stats are against MSST, MIZ and VAN.
But again, it wasn’t an either or proposition when many were against King transferring to LSU. And none of the negatives about King there were put forth by them has shown to be true. Lacks leadership? By reading comments of the coaches and players, he is clearly the leader for the Hurricanes’ offense and team. Highly inaccurate? He is completing a higher percentage of his passes than Brennan against better competition. Bad attitude? No proof of that. Quitter? He hasn’t quit at Miami.
You have no idea whether Fields would have transferred here. LSU was in the running. Whether Fields was ever coming to LSU or not has nothing to do with the vilification he received by many LSU “fans” who were adamantly against him transferring here, as they were with King and Kyler Murray, who many similarly vilified. It’s a pattern.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 6:06 pm to justustm2
Damn, that's a lot to process. For starters, I didn't say anything either way when talk of King transferring was brought up. But you are lying to yourself if you think it wasn't an either or proposition. No senior is transferring from a school where they are the guaranteed starter to another school unless they were guaranteed the starting position. King is an NFL prospect, he is not sitting as a backup his senior season. On the flip side, there is no way Brennan is staying after waiting his turn for 3 years only to see LSU bring in another QB.
Also find it funny you start your argument talking about how comparing the two is irrelevant, and then you go on to compare the two. No, I wont sit here and say that Brennan faced a tougher schedule, because he didn't. But if you take the Clemson (7-1) game out of King's (which he looked terrible in mind you, and yes he deserves some credit considering Miami does not match up talent wise), he has played against essentially .500 competition. Probably still a tougher schedule, but not exactly a grinder of a schedule either.
I think a more fair comparison would be Sam Howell or Ian Book, as both are NFL prospect QB's playing in the same conference, yet King's stats are not any better/identical than either two of them. However, in their biggest games when their teams needed them most, Book (Clem & UNC) and Howell (ND) kept their teams competitive, while King (Clem) managed one FG and a bunch of punts until the second to last possession of a blow out. I said absolutely nothing about his intangibles or his leadership ability, as I think both are as good as any.
As I said in the previous post, I think King is a good QB and a mid round NFL prospect, but lets not pretend that he would have been a Heisman candidate and saved LSU's season. In all honesty, I view him and Brennan at about the same level. Both are good college QB's who will have their shot at the NFL, but that reaffirms my point that LSU didn't really miss out on anything. If Brennan would have stayed healthy (hindsight is 20/20), I think they both probably would have ended the year with similar stats. Obviously it would be nice to have King now that Brennan is out, but as I said, I don't really think that was a possibility. Plus no, I don't think King would have been able to come to LSU in a shortened offseason where he couldn't meet with teammates and unseat a QB that has spent 3 years in the system with the OC.
And lastly, obviously, I would take Fields in a heartbeat, and I pray to god that the Vikings somehow find a way to trade up for him in the draft, as I do think he is a future franchise QB. But again, I really don't think he was ever seriously considering transferring to LSU. There are plenty of racists on this board, and I agree with you that most make no qualms about letting it known either. All I'm saying is I don't think that D'Eriq King is the hill you want to make your stand on.
Also find it funny you start your argument talking about how comparing the two is irrelevant, and then you go on to compare the two. No, I wont sit here and say that Brennan faced a tougher schedule, because he didn't. But if you take the Clemson (7-1) game out of King's (which he looked terrible in mind you, and yes he deserves some credit considering Miami does not match up talent wise), he has played against essentially .500 competition. Probably still a tougher schedule, but not exactly a grinder of a schedule either.
I think a more fair comparison would be Sam Howell or Ian Book, as both are NFL prospect QB's playing in the same conference, yet King's stats are not any better/identical than either two of them. However, in their biggest games when their teams needed them most, Book (Clem & UNC) and Howell (ND) kept their teams competitive, while King (Clem) managed one FG and a bunch of punts until the second to last possession of a blow out. I said absolutely nothing about his intangibles or his leadership ability, as I think both are as good as any.
As I said in the previous post, I think King is a good QB and a mid round NFL prospect, but lets not pretend that he would have been a Heisman candidate and saved LSU's season. In all honesty, I view him and Brennan at about the same level. Both are good college QB's who will have their shot at the NFL, but that reaffirms my point that LSU didn't really miss out on anything. If Brennan would have stayed healthy (hindsight is 20/20), I think they both probably would have ended the year with similar stats. Obviously it would be nice to have King now that Brennan is out, but as I said, I don't really think that was a possibility. Plus no, I don't think King would have been able to come to LSU in a shortened offseason where he couldn't meet with teammates and unseat a QB that has spent 3 years in the system with the OC.
And lastly, obviously, I would take Fields in a heartbeat, and I pray to god that the Vikings somehow find a way to trade up for him in the draft, as I do think he is a future franchise QB. But again, I really don't think he was ever seriously considering transferring to LSU. There are plenty of racists on this board, and I agree with you that most make no qualms about letting it known either. All I'm saying is I don't think that D'Eriq King is the hill you want to make your stand on.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:08 pm to SD Tigerz
Quinn Ewers a composite 1.000. Only one of 5 players in history... This boy must be truly special.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:18 pm to CFF lover
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
Or he will flip to LSU. He saw what we did with Joe Burrow and I know he wants to be apart of something that great. I spoke with someone close to him and they said if LSU hires a good OC he will be going to LSU
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:32 pm to aidanmarks
You’re delusional.
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