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re: Orgeron: LSU saving "at least 2, maybe 3" scholarships for transfer portal
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:06 pm to BillF
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:06 pm to BillF
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I know that transfers can obviously fill holes in the roster and sometimes are home runs like Burrow, but to make transfers part of your master recruiting plan every single year just isn't sustainable.
Virtually every program in America, outside of Clemson, takes a couple transfers every year.
It's perfectly sustainable.
And the biggest misconception of all is that you are comparing a 4-year player to a one (or two) year player.
As we have learned, high school signees are very capable of being one (or two) year players.
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:06 pm to Cs
quote:Don't get your hopes up, all im saying is, have it in your mind that we are not getting him, the melt will be a lot easier to move on from, at this point, I have no clue how to read this kids recruitment, but I have that feeling like we have 300k reasons we didn't land him, and if so i'm fine with it, last thing Lsu needs in the near future is more allegations, cause god forbid he don't get lots of playing time as a freshman and his dad wants him to transfer and throw Lsu under the bus!! Not worth the headache imo, Do I want him? Yes of course, but do it the right way and cover your arse,
It's going to be incredibly disappointing if we lose out on Brian Thomas Jr
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:14 pm to cajunduby
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Top 5 recruiting class is limping?
Well we would have been #1 if all his wrong predictions he made had come to fruition, so in his "insider" mind we are limping
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:16 pm to CatfishJohn
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If he would just add 2 more good (not even elite) OL recruits, it would make a great class elite. But that is a huge hole as of now.
With the risks associated with Moko maybe not even coming to the US and panning out and a good OL class shaping up for next year, better to target a guy with 2-3 years to play in the Portal who can sit this season and be ready to make an impact when we need guys to step up in 2022.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:16 pm to Geauxgurt
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Not having a top 2 class after that NC, and I don't really care about the ranking, but in overall quality is utterly absurd and a failure.
In the end, O is not even doing the one thing everyone expected of him to a top tier level. He's getting out-recruited by Smart and freaking Ryan Day.
I'd bet that cute blonde that Coach O was seen in pictures with after the championship was your girlfriend. Don't hate just because Coach O is pounding your girl.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
No way you should have it in your mind as a coach to take 3 transfers a year.
Leaving a spot or two open in a down year is fine.
That tells me they aren't sold on developing players. This is becoming a theme with 'o'.
I'm all for taking transfers this yr because they will have some great players. Keep 2 spots but you shouldn't go into every yr already thinking about 3 transfers.
Leaving a spot or two open in a down year is fine.
That tells me they aren't sold on developing players. This is becoming a theme with 'o'.
I'm all for taking transfers this yr because they will have some great players. Keep 2 spots but you shouldn't go into every yr already thinking about 3 transfers.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:21 pm to TIGERSby10
With the exception of Brian Thomas Jr., who is too talented to not take if he wants in, I am perfectly fine with having 2-3 scholarships to give in free agency due to who is left out there.
LSU has some holes that would be better filled short term by talented transfers IMO.
LSU has some holes that would be better filled short term by talented transfers IMO.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:24 pm to cajunduby
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Top 5 recruiting class is limping?
Still can’t believe how they pulled this off with all of the Title IX stuff and coaching turnover.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:30 pm to smash williams
I think we will do just fine in the portal.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:42 pm to boxcar willie
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Other than Brian Thomas
Thomas very well can be on the outside looking in. It will be very hard to turn him away but due to other needs that is very well what can happen. He should have signed on the early signing period!
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:44 pm to misey94
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With the risks associated with Moko maybe not even coming to the US and panning out and a good OL class shaping up for next year, better to target a guy with 2-3 years to play in the Portal who can sit this season and be ready to make an impact when we need guys to step up in 2022.
What OLs are we targeting in the portal that will be available in 2022?
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:44 pm to Chalkywhite84
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No way you should have it in your mind as a coach to take 3 transfers a year.
Leaving a spot or two open in a down year is fine.
That tells me they aren't sold on developing players. This is becoming a theme with 'o'.
Meh. I don’t follow this as closely as a lot of you, but besides the portal and the NCAA’s recently liberal grantings of immediate eligibility, I think the split signing periods has changed coaches’ philosophies as well.
Sign your core class and fill your needs in December, and leave a few spots in February for ONLY the top guys remaining. Put all your resources in going after just a handful of guys who, almost by definition, will be much harder to land. Shoot your shots and if you don’t hit, hang on to the 2 or 3 spots you have for potential transfers at positions that may be exposed as weaknesses in the off-season (either due to injury or lack of development from guys you were counting on).
It seems like with all the recent changes, this will wind up being the standard strategy for most schools. Now, if O keeps going 0-3 in February every year, that would be concerning. But we had huge coaching turnover on both sides of the ball the past month, and none of these new guys had built any relationships at a with the guys we’re going after, so the long shots got even longer. I just don’t think we can use this finish tomorrow as a big indication of any trend quite yet.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:47 pm to SoloTiger
Jimbo doing work
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:51 pm to SOL2
More likely to see field there as a freshman if that is what he wants.
I don't see LSU trying to outbid for Thomas either.
I don't see LSU trying to outbid for Thomas either.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:10 pm to SOL2
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Jimbo doing work
And the fact that Coach O spent the past 2 months trying to hire new coaches and put recruiting on the back burner 
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:11 pm to VolTiger13
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It’s a plan of necessity... Make no mistake, we are limping across the finish line yet again
So I guess we're discounting the amazing job the staff has done at recruiting guys already on the team to stay for another year?
To a level not even close to being seen since Saban was here.
Or is it you're butthurt because you've called your shot many times in the past as an "insider" and it not come to fruition, so you've built up a lot of resentment towards Coach O?
And how bout the fact that this class is already awesome. Even if we don't finish with the ideal, we've already signed an incredible class - rankings be damned.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Just get Brian Thomas that’s all I care about. Don’t lose out on the best receiver in your state to a division rival. Then use the last 2 spots on the portal. 1 for a plug and play starter at LB. Then used the last spot on Best Player Available preferably a TE or DB.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:20 pm to Geauxgurt
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Not having a top 2 class after that NC, and I don't really care about the ranking, but in overall quality is utterly absurd and a failure.
Bad DC hire and Covid restricting visits hurt on this.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:21 pm to dwright369
Ryan Day can recruit but he's never winning a natty
And as close as Smart has been, why can't he get over the hump with all that talent
And as close as Smart has been, why can't he get over the hump with all that talent
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:48 pm to Chalkywhite84
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No way you should have it in your mind as a coach to take 3 transfers a year.
Adapt or die. All the recruiting rules of the past are gone.
You lose an upperclassman to transfer, you replace him with an upperclassman.
Even the best rosters will have holes, and filling those with a freshman is not always wise.
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