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NIL the locker room monster

Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:47 pm
Now that NIL has arrived we are seeing the first problems with it, namely teams bidding on "student" athletes for their services. So we engage in bidding wars with each other and high bidder wins. Deep pockets will build great teams.

But now I see the next big problem, the locker room. Professional athletes have pissing matches when they find that a team player gets a bigger cut; so why should college athletes be any different. Good luck dealing with this shite.
Posted by Sir Fury
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:49 pm to
When it comes to "locker rooms" I imagine you're specifically talking about athletes that are currently enrolled and in school. Unless they are in the portal, there shouldn't be any contact by any other school. If there is not contact, there is not bidding war. If there is a bidding war, then there is impermissible contact. I bet there is and I also bet the NCAA doesn't do anything about it.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by GeauxLSU4
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:52 pm to
Coaches have no shot with the way things currently stand. I can see a bunch of the good, young coaches going to the NFL instead of dealing with this nonsense.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:54 pm to
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namely teams bidding on "student" athletes for their services.


Which players & which teams?
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Professional athletes have pissing matches when they find that a team player gets a bigger cut; so why should college athletes be any different.


Because it isn't the school directly paying them.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Professional athletes have pissing matches when they find that a team player gets a bigger cut


While I agree with your overall premise, I don’t think this part is true at all. I’m pretty sure there’s an unspoken (or maybe spoken) rule that you don’t talk—or worry—about another man’s money. Now, they may bitch at their agents for not getting them better deals, but I don’t recall any stories of professional grown men having issues with each other based on their respective salaries. But they are professionals and grown men. This is likely to be an issue for college athletes. I guess we’ll have to see how big of an issue it becomes. I’m sure it will be less of an issue for teams with the better coaches.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Which players & which teams?


We saw what TAM got with this recruiting class, it sure as hell wasn't because Jimbo is such a great salesman. My focus in this thread is what happens once the players get here. Jealousy is going to eventually destroy teams when player x gets a better deal than player y.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Luggahead
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:03 pm to
What I am really curious about is how do these Jr and Srs who have been starters for 2 years feel about incoming Fr who are now making 6 figures. I could see that being a problem. Coaches may love the idea of being able to buy high recruits but I think its going to end up making their job much harder.
Posted by NOSA
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:03 pm to
To add to your point, it's more of a deal when the market gets reset at a position for contracts. Then the next guy up wants to top that level but that's only the top tier guys.

This idea that pro athletes fight with each other about contracts is fantasy.

This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:03 pm to
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But they are professionals and grown men. This is likely to be an issue for college athletes. 


Exactly my point.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Because it isn't the school directly paying them.


Irrelevant, the player doesn't care where the money comes from only that they get paid. And for the record, I know the school doesn't do the paying out of NIL bucks. Boosters and businesses are the ones forking out the money.
Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:35 pm to
I’m rooting for and against NIL to work for incoming freshman. I hope the kids get paid, but I'm also hoping for some kind of moneyball-esque genius to come along and use the transfer portal as a way to get around it, and teams like Texas A&M, who think they can buy a championship, end up throwing a lot of money at nothing.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Unless they are in the portal, there shouldn't be any contact by any other school. If there is not contact, there is not bidding war


I was reading an article this past week on NIL and it brought this up. As you say other teams should not be contacting your players if they are not in the portal but this in fact is happening and the NCAA is pretty much powerless to do anything about it.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:36 pm to
They’ve had back to back top 10 classes before this year bro
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:38 pm to
I totally agree that NIL deals will make some locker rooms completely toxic. However , I think some coaches will be able to manage it and others won’t. It all comes down to the culture of the program. I expect A&M to be an absolute shitshow and I expect Bama will be business as usual. LSU, I have no idea.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:42 pm to
NIL is going to need caps on the pay outs. Also they need to establish that a player can only get one NIL deal. That will stop players hopping from one team to another.

I have no idea how coaches are going to deal with this mess. It's going to require at lot of creative work between the team, the NIL sponsors, and the players.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:43 pm to
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They’ve had back to back top 10 classes before this year bro


So you think this wasnt because of money? Quit trolling.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278394 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:47 pm to
They’ve had the 4th, 6th & 8th ranked classes the last 3 years. It’s not shocking they can jump to one

Show me the NIL deals, hoss
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Show me the NIL deals, hoss


Can't. But to believe that the players weren't paid is being a bit navie. Also I was just using TAM as an example, definitely not saying they are the only ones.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278394 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:53 pm to
Players have always been paid
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