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re: Mike Farrell thinks Arch should be a 3 star
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:49 am to cforester821
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:49 am to cforester821
He was not all state in 2A last year. But now he is #1 in the country?
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:01 am to toratiger
Do you not know the difference in how all-state teams and recruiting rankings are compiled?
Major discrepancies are extremely common.
Major discrepancies are extremely common.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:26 am to toratiger
There’s a reason he skipped all the camps and Elite 11. His status takes a hit if he gets outshined by 8-10 other QBs
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:40 am to cforester821
My God I've been saying this forever and most local scouts who aren't afraid to open their mouths have said the same. Kid is a 4 star AT BEST.
I watch guys like Dante Moore, Nico Iamaleava, Jaden Rashada, and Jackson Arnold and wonder how Arch is even close to any of them.
All these scouting programs have been so afraid to downgrade him it's ridiculous.
I watch guys like Dante Moore, Nico Iamaleava, Jaden Rashada, and Jackson Arnold and wonder how Arch is even close to any of them.
All these scouting programs have been so afraid to downgrade him it's ridiculous.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:47 am to Datbayoubengal
If anyone met the Mannings you'd all wonder how they were such good athletes truth be told. They're some goofy looking dudes. 
That said, most of them got off the slow careers and eventually developed into what you see in NFL. I think it's ridiculous to slap a 3* on Arch but it's also just as ridiculous to say Manning has the insane rating he does now. There's no way someone can look at him right now and say he has more potential than a Dante Moore or 5 other big names QBs in the class. Potential is there but not anywhere near where he's rated. It seems genuinely unfair and it's another reason I think he's setup to fail at Texas with their unrealistic expectations for him. Also, another reason recruiting rankings are cancer.
That said, most of them got off the slow careers and eventually developed into what you see in NFL. I think it's ridiculous to slap a 3* on Arch but it's also just as ridiculous to say Manning has the insane rating he does now. There's no way someone can look at him right now and say he has more potential than a Dante Moore or 5 other big names QBs in the class. Potential is there but not anywhere near where he's rated. It seems genuinely unfair and it's another reason I think he's setup to fail at Texas with their unrealistic expectations for him. Also, another reason recruiting rankings are cancer.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:50 am to Clark W Griswold
quote:what camps and drills? The LSU one and Manning Passing Academy? None of that looks special, he looks average at best.
I’ve been saying that. The kid looks good at camps and drills. But in game he doesn’t look that special compared to others. His team isn’t great so maybe that plays a part. But his name is what has elevated him to this status.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:10 am to Bestbank Tiger
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But what does Alan Alda think?
Thinks he’d be better flying below the radar.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:41 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Sark may as well start drinking again if he’s hitching his wagon to Arch. He struggles to stand out in church league.
I think he wanted Arch for the headlines and to help recruit other players. He'll have other great options at QB if Arch is a bust.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:43 am to transcend
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He'll have other great options at QB if Arch is a bust.
If he can’t get results from 2 of the highest rated prospects in history, both QBs in his program........he’s gonna be job shopping again
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:18 pm to deuce985
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I think it's ridiculous to slap a 3* on Arch but it's also just as ridiculous to say Manning has the insane rating he does now.
It isn’t ridiculous to call Manning a 3star because that what he is. Have you seen him play? I have and I can tell you that Ricky Collins and Eli Holstein are both 4 star QBs and both are better than Manning and it isn’t close.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:23 pm to cforester821
He's ranked where he is only because both Eli and Peyton turned into long time NFL starters with great success.
Peyton was very highly rated but Eli wasn't.
Peyton was very highly rated but Eli wasn't.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:41 pm to Clark W Griswold
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. The kid looks good at camps and drills.
Manning doesn’t go to camps. He did a little 7 on 7 but not camps.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:55 pm to cajun12
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There’s a reason he skipped all the camps and Elite 11. His status takes a hit if he gets outshined by 8-10 other QBs
This was all I needed to see. It screams out that I’m overrated and not at the level of what I am ranked. Absolutely the #1 so called QB in the country should have been at the Elite 11 and camped somewhere! That’s the bottom line. His upcoming SR year will also say a lot.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:05 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
He's not the best QB in the country to me but idk how you can call him a 3*
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:08 pm to cforester821
Im far from a Farrell fan but he's not completely off base. The 3 star part is nonsense. That is just goading. The actual comments ring true. More than a few have said the same but have to toe the company line. Ask 247 how hitching their wagon to him has helped them. I see a mid to high 4 with talent, upside and great lineage intangibles. He's not the 2nd coming and not the best qb in the class. Maybe the state.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:41 pm to cforester821
He’s a very solid 4 star. A headliner QB for a top 25 Program
3 star QBs are guys that get mid tier regional offered or class fillers as a QB2 at bigger schools
3 star QBs are guys that get mid tier regional offered or class fillers as a QB2 at bigger schools
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:03 pm to toratiger
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He was not all state in 2A last year. But now he is #1 in the country?
DING DING DING! Hope he is more durable than his father for starters. Boy hasn't been hit yet...
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:15 pm to PureBlood
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Give me a 3 star with the tangibles
A three star “with the tangibles” would be a five star. It’s the intangibles you are thinking of.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:52 pm to cforester821
People put a lot of negative comments about this young man. How many have seen him play? Remember what district he plays in. He was as big if not larger than most of his OL. If he would have played 5A maybe a little different results
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