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re: Maurice Hampton will sign in February.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:04 am to whitefoot
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:04 am to whitefoot
The "lost scholarship" concept is not *that* big of a deal.
When you have 85 scholarship athletes and 25 per year, you have a difference of 15 not counting redshirts. Effectively you need to lose up to 15 players a year to transfer, net graduation, flunking out, not qualifying, quitting football, going to MLB draft etc.
This year, if all 25 sign we have to lose something like 9 or 10 players currently on scholarship one way or another. If Hampton doesn't sign, that's one fewer player that needs to be a victim of attrition.
When you have 85 scholarship athletes and 25 per year, you have a difference of 15 not counting redshirts. Effectively you need to lose up to 15 players a year to transfer, net graduation, flunking out, not qualifying, quitting football, going to MLB draft etc.
This year, if all 25 sign we have to lose something like 9 or 10 players currently on scholarship one way or another. If Hampton doesn't sign, that's one fewer player that needs to be a victim of attrition.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:10 am to whitefoot
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Delpit will probably be gone after next year, Stevens seems destined for LB, I'm not totally sure what we have in Harris, and can anyone explain why Monroe played so sparingly this year?
I'm sold on Harris. I don't know why he doesn't get more playing time. Good things happen when he's in the ball game. ( I believe he's been hurt a lot this season.)
Isn't Devonta Lee a projected safety?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:15 am to austiger
It's not the numbers I'm worried about. It's not getting a potential impact player.
Attrition is a good thing. It's coaches making hard decisions and trimming players who likely aren't going to provide the impact they were recruited to provide.
Is Christian Williams THAT much less of a player than Hampton that it's worth the risk, if we end up with a chance to get Williams? I love Hampton, but I think I'd go with a bird in the hand over taking the chance.
I think your post is better suited as an argument against taking Rodney. I've been saying for months that taking Rodney means we have to free up a scholarship on the 85 and that it's not just about using one of our 25 initial counters.
Attrition is a good thing. It's coaches making hard decisions and trimming players who likely aren't going to provide the impact they were recruited to provide.
Is Christian Williams THAT much less of a player than Hampton that it's worth the risk, if we end up with a chance to get Williams? I love Hampton, but I think I'd go with a bird in the hand over taking the chance.
I think your post is better suited as an argument against taking Rodney. I've been saying for months that taking Rodney means we have to free up a scholarship on the 85 and that it's not just about using one of our 25 initial counters.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:19 am to GumboPot
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Isn't Devonta Lee a projected safety?
I see Marcel Brooks as a safety and Devonta Lee as an OLB.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:19 am to whitefoot
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Is Christian Williams THAT much less of a player than Hampton that it's worth the risk, if we end up with a chance to get Williams? I love Hampton, but I think I'd go with a bird in the hand over taking the chance.
If we must take another safety, I'd go this route, too.
But I'd rather just forego on taking another safety.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:21 am to OppositeMan
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I see Marcel Brooks as a safety and Devonta Lee as an OLB.
I think Hampton as a safety would play a different role than either of them. I could see both Brooks and Lee slotting in a Jacoby Stevens hybrid role.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:22 am to geauxtigers33
Based on his football talent and LSU allowing him to play baseball, I would accept his signing.
If he goes MLB route, I wonder if that would free up a spot for a potential transfer instead.
If he goes MLB route, I wonder if that would free up a spot for a potential transfer instead.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to GumboPot
You hold the scholarship until August for him. Don't waste one of the 25 in Feb imo.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:45 am to whitefoot
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It's essentially the same thing as far as initial counters are concerned.
But my understanding is that he wouldn’t count to the 25 man limit until he signs his LOI. I assume this plays out where he signs the financial aide paperwork so he can be on campus for summer program then see what happens come August.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:51 am to STEVED00
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It's essentially the same thing as far as initial counters are concerned.
But my understanding is that he wouldn’t count to the 25 man limit until he signs his LOI. I assume this plays out where he signs the financial aide paperwork so he can be on campus for summer program then see what happens come August.
It's the exact same thing. Can't even sign a LOI at that time of year. Here's the rule:
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15.5.1.10.1.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the limit for the next academic year. (Adopted: 1/14/12 effective 8/1/12, Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:59 am to DallasTiger45
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I think Hampton as a safety would play a different role than either of them. I could see both Brooks and Lee slotting in a Jacoby Stevens hybrid role.
Yes. I agree with this. Although, I think Brooks is a freaky enough athlete to do everything (pass rush, play close to the line of scrimmage and defend the run, and play in space in coverage).
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:00 pm to nicholastiger
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I wonder if that would free up a spot for a potential transfer instead.
It would not. Transfers count as initial counters.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:02 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Don't waste one of the 25 in Feb imo.
Is it a waste to get Moore, Pickering, Young or Christian Williams? If we can get one of those guys, you would turn them away to hold a spot for Hampton?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:06 pm to GumboPot
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Reading between the lines is sounds like Maurice enjoys the game of football a little more than baseball but it might be too difficult to turn down that MLB money
He needs to be lights out in baseball to reach the bigs but go directly to the bigs in football.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:06 pm to GumboPot
If he foregoes signing an agent and has his MLB pay put into escrow, he can maintain his NCAA eligibility.
Which means, possibly, he could come and play a couple years down the road. Which also means we wouldn't necessarily "waste" that scholarship, only defer it.
My question is has anything along these lines been mentioned ?
I'm also curious about the Blue Shirt possibilities:
- have there been any coaches in-home?
- anything in writing (including LOI) sent to him?
- has he had an OV? (I don't think so on this one)?
Which means, possibly, he could come and play a couple years down the road. Which also means we wouldn't necessarily "waste" that scholarship, only defer it.
My question is has anything along these lines been mentioned ?
I'm also curious about the Blue Shirt possibilities:
- have there been any coaches in-home?
- anything in writing (including LOI) sent to him?
- has he had an OV? (I don't think so on this one)?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:34 pm to I20goon
If he decides to go MLB, do we get the scholarship back if he does not attend LSU?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:40 pm to BTRDD
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If he decides to go MLB, do we get the scholarship back if he does not attend LSU?
no.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:41 pm to BTRDD
quote:counts against this years 25.
If he decides to go MLB, do we get the scholarship back if he does not attend LSU?
The way I understand the rules, if he signs LOI this year and ends up playing for LSU 3 years later after getting tired of being on buses and playing a Whataburger field it still counts this year- not when he comes back. It's a freebie later on, it's a loss of a 25 spot this year.
Does not count against any years 85.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:01 pm to TBoy@LSU
Interesting that you bring Lee up. He played for the Rays last year in double A, not sure where he is now. Zac Von Rosenberg did the same thing out of high school and came back with CFB eligibility. You have to wonder what options could open for a guy like Lee having never used his CFB eligibility.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:45 pm to geauxtigers33
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you are risking one signee in a sport that allows you 25 a year for a chance to get a quality athlete that will help you in your two main sports on campus.
Orgeron doesn't give a flying flip about baseball.
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