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re: Maurice Hampton will sign in February.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:40 am to Clockwatcher68
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:40 am to Clockwatcher68
He's in a very similar spot to Kyler Murray when he came out of HS. Murray was around 30th in prospect rankings which is exactly where Hampton is. Hopefully, he takes a page from Kyler's book and comes here to play both for 3 years. (Except without the transfer part, lol)
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:40 am to GumboPot
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The good news is that LSU understands the risk and appears to feel good about the prospects of Maurice playing college football and college baseball instead of MLB AT THIS TIME. If not, LSU would have pulled the offer and saved the scholarship for another player that could be productive.
Why can’t LSU just have an understanding with the kid that LSU will “Hold” the scholarship open pending his baseball decision. If he decides to turn down baseball, great he signs over the summer. If he chooses baseball then LSU can go after a summer grad transfer or have an extra spot in 2020 class (at least that is my understanding how it works now).
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:42 am to geauxtigers33
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LSU does not lose the scholarship. They lose a member of the signing class they will still have 85 scholarships but it will have to go to someone already on the team. Won’t be able to bring anyone new in.
I hope LSU agrees to simply hold the slot (LOI) open to him. He can see if he takes the MLB contract. If not, he gets the scholarship when he enrolls. If he decides to take the MLB contract, LSU can have an extra slot for 2020 (enroll early and count back to 2019)
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:42 am to geauxtigers33
The difference is that the LOI held for him and not signed could be counted back in next year's class. If he signs and goes MLB you never get that initial counter spot back. So essentially you are losing a scholarship player. Add that with the presumed "wasted" ship on Rodney Sopsher and that's 2 "lost" scholarship worthy players. In the arms race we are in with Bama and others it's just not smart.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:42 am to geauxtigers33
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Yes they will let him sign in February.
I know Hampton thinks this is the plan, but are we sure LSU is definitely letting him sign in February?
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Yes you lose a signee for this class but he is a safety and LSU can find another quality safety next year to make up for him.
You don't think we need a safety in this class? I'm concerned about our depth there. Delpit will probably be gone after next year, Stevens seems destined for LB, I'm not totally sure what we have in Harris, and can anyone explain why Monroe played so sparingly this year? I'm assuming we move Joseph to safety at some point, so that should help, but I'd really like a safety prospect, either Hampton or Christian Williams, in this class. My preference would be Hampton, but I wouldn't pass on Williams just for the opportunity to take the risk on Hampton.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:43 am to STEVED00
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Why can’t LSU just have an understanding with the kid that LSU will “Hold” the scholarship open pending his baseball decision. If he decides to turn down baseball, great he signs over the summer. If he chooses baseball then LSU can go after a summer grad transfer or have an extra spot in 2020 class (at least that is my understanding how it works now).
This.
Or why can't he just sign a baseball scholarship to get him signed with LSU, then that switches to a football scholarship if he makes it to campus?
Baseball isn't hurt by signees going pro like football is, they'd get the scholarship back. Essentially, it would just be a placeholder scholarship.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:45 am to TheCaterpillar
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Or why can't he just sign a baseball scholarship to get him signed with LSU, then that switches to a football scholarship if he makes it to campus?
My understanding is there is a rule in place that prohibits this. If they play football and are on scholarship then it needs to count towards the football #s. I heard it referred to as the Bear Bryant Rule.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:47 am to STEVED00
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My understanding is there is a rule in place that prohibits this. If they play football and are on scholarship then it needs to count towards the football #s. I heard it referred to as the Bear Bryant Rule.
Correct.
But he can just sign a baseball scholarship and say he doesn't plan on playing football.
Then, theoretically, if he doesn't sign with an MLB team, he can be on campus, walk-on to football team and "earn a scholarship". Thus, no longer be on a baseball scholarship.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:48 am to TheCaterpillar
That seems easier said then done. Holding an open scholarship pending his decision in the summer seems a lot cleaner.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
I think signing with LSU gives him more leverage with MLB teams...maybe it scares some of them off a bit and he drops a round or two?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
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Maurice said he is completely undecided of whether or not to accept an MLB offer or not and will make that decision with his family in June.
Well that makes sense...since the draft isn’t until fricking June.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:49 am to TheCaterpillar
There is some kind of waiting period of when he could even start playing football if he signed a baseball LOI.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:49 am to DallasTiger45
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I think signing with LSU gives him more leverage with MLB teams
Exactly. He'll want to sign with LSU in some capacity to have leverage for more money.
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maybe it scares some of them off a bit and he drops a round or two?
Maybe, but doubtful.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:50 am to ProjectP2294
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There is some kind of waiting period of when he could even start playing football if he signed a baseball LOI.
Doubtful he plays next year anyway...
But I didn't know this and it makes sense.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:51 am to DallasTiger45
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I think signing with LSU gives him more leverage with MLB teams...maybe it scares some of them off a bit and he drops a round or two?
LSU could still potentially get screwed in this situation if he chooses baseball. I don’t see how leaving the scholarship open is bad for either side (player or school) assuming they trust each other.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:51 am to STEVED00
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assuming they trust each other.
Maybe the staff is worried that proposition will piss off Hampton and he'll go somewhere else with room that is willing to take the risk.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:53 am to STEVED00
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LSU could still potentially get screwed in this situation if he chooses baseball. I don’t see how leaving the scholarship open is bad for either side (player or school) assuming they trust each other.
I'm not sure it's a trust issue...Hampton is saying that he'll decide in June. I think it's more of a gamble, and I don't really like it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:53 am to TheCaterpillar
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Maybe the staff is worried that proposition will piss off Hampton and he'll go somewhere else with room that is willing to take the risk
I will be very pissed off if Hampton ends up not going pro and plays somewhere other than LSU.
ETA: changed wording
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:53 am to TheCaterpillar
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Exactly. He'll want to sign with LSU in some capacity to have leverage for more money.
I think they can sign a financial aide agreement that basically assures their scholarship w/o signing a LOI. This is what players did prior to early signing period when they wanted to enroll early.
I assume LSU will probably attempt this with Hampton.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:58 am to STEVED00
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I think they can sign a financial aide agreement that basically assures their scholarship w/o signing a LOI. This is what players did prior to early signing period when they wanted to enroll early
It's essentially the same thing as far as initial counters are concerned.
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