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LSU vs. Bama Head-to-Head recruiting 2011-2019
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:15 pm
Bama's recruiting success sometimes gets over-stated related to us. Looking at head-to-head since 2011, we are 32-11-1. the one is Ish Sopsher. we'll see where he lands.
This is what i have in terms of head-to-head recruiting:
2011 - La’el Collins OT (LSU); Trai Turner (LSU)
2012 - Kwon Alexander LB (LSU); Vadal Alexander OG (LSU); Jeremy Hill RB (LSU); Landon Collins S (Bama)
2013 - Kendell Beckwith LB (LSU); John Diarse WR (LSU); DeSean Smith TE (LSU); Tim Williams DE (Bama)
2014 - Leonard Fournette RB (LSU); Malachi Dupree WR (LSU); Garrett Brumfield OG (LSU); Will Clapp OG (LSU); Cam Robinson OT (Bama)
2015 - Derrius Guice RB (LSU); Tyron Johnson WR (LSU)
2016 - Drake Davis WR (LSU); Kristian Fulton CB (LSU); Irv Smith Jr. TE (Bama); Shyheim Carter WR (Bama); Saivion Smith (LSU)
2017 - Grant Delpit S (LSU); Ed Ingram OG (LSU); Jacob Phillips LB (LSU); JaCoby Stevens S (LSU); Tyler Shelvin DT (LSU); Justin Thomas DE (LSU); DeVonta Smith WR (Bama); Phidarian Mathis DT (Bama); Chris Allen LB (Bama); Dylan Moses LB (Bama)
2018 - Kelvin Joseph S/CB (LSU); Terrace Marshall WR (LSU); Dare Rosenthal DT/OT (LSU); Davin Cotton DT (LSU); Patrick Surtain CB (Bama); Saivion Smith (Bama)
2019 - Derek Stingley CB (LSU); John Emery Jr. RB (LSU); Siaka Ika DT (LSU); Marcel Brooks LB (LSU); Kardell Thomas OG (LSU); Ish Sospher DT (LSU/Bama); Christian Harris LB (Bama)
This is what i have in terms of head-to-head recruiting:
2011 - La’el Collins OT (LSU); Trai Turner (LSU)
2012 - Kwon Alexander LB (LSU); Vadal Alexander OG (LSU); Jeremy Hill RB (LSU); Landon Collins S (Bama)
2013 - Kendell Beckwith LB (LSU); John Diarse WR (LSU); DeSean Smith TE (LSU); Tim Williams DE (Bama)
2014 - Leonard Fournette RB (LSU); Malachi Dupree WR (LSU); Garrett Brumfield OG (LSU); Will Clapp OG (LSU); Cam Robinson OT (Bama)
2015 - Derrius Guice RB (LSU); Tyron Johnson WR (LSU)
2016 - Drake Davis WR (LSU); Kristian Fulton CB (LSU); Irv Smith Jr. TE (Bama); Shyheim Carter WR (Bama); Saivion Smith (LSU)
2017 - Grant Delpit S (LSU); Ed Ingram OG (LSU); Jacob Phillips LB (LSU); JaCoby Stevens S (LSU); Tyler Shelvin DT (LSU); Justin Thomas DE (LSU); DeVonta Smith WR (Bama); Phidarian Mathis DT (Bama); Chris Allen LB (Bama); Dylan Moses LB (Bama)
2018 - Kelvin Joseph S/CB (LSU); Terrace Marshall WR (LSU); Dare Rosenthal DT/OT (LSU); Davin Cotton DT (LSU); Patrick Surtain CB (Bama); Saivion Smith (Bama)
2019 - Derek Stingley CB (LSU); John Emery Jr. RB (LSU); Siaka Ika DT (LSU); Marcel Brooks LB (LSU); Kardell Thomas OG (LSU); Ish Sospher DT (LSU/Bama); Christian Harris LB (Bama)
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 4:21 pm
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:17 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Where is Dylan Moses?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:19 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Surtain’s a groupie.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:20 pm to ecb
Good catch. 32-12-1
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:20 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Bama passed on Kwon.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:22 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:26 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
I don't know, man...several of these weren't really battles. To me, a battle comes down to the end, and one of the school's is picked. If a prospect commits to one of the schools early, it's snot really a battle. Plus, the guy has to be heavily desired by both schools...like, primary option at that position. I mean, both schools have both offered at least hundreds of other prospects in the last 8 years.
I remember these being heated contests:
2011 -
2012 - Jeremy Hill RB (LSU); Landon Collins S (Bama)
2013 - Kendell Beckwith LB (LSU); (LSU); Tim Williams DE (Bama)
2014 - Leonard Fournette RB; (LSU); Cam Robinson OT (Bama)
2015 -
2016 - Kristian Fulton CB (LSU); Shyheim Carter WR (Bama)
2017 - JaCoby Stevens S (LSU); DeVonta Smith WR (Bama); Phidarian Mathis DT (Bama); Chris Allen LB (Bama)
2018 - Patrick Surtain CB (Bama)
2019 - Ish Sospher DT (LSU/Bama);
Oh, yeah...Moses missing.
Notice there aren't any prospects from Alabama on there...we're going 5 for 15 for mostly Louisiana guys. That's the problem.
I remember these being heated contests:
2011 -
2012 - Jeremy Hill RB (LSU); Landon Collins S (Bama)
2013 - Kendell Beckwith LB (LSU); (LSU); Tim Williams DE (Bama)
2014 - Leonard Fournette RB; (LSU); Cam Robinson OT (Bama)
2015 -
2016 - Kristian Fulton CB (LSU); Shyheim Carter WR (Bama)
2017 - JaCoby Stevens S (LSU); DeVonta Smith WR (Bama); Phidarian Mathis DT (Bama); Chris Allen LB (Bama)
2018 - Patrick Surtain CB (Bama)
2019 - Ish Sospher DT (LSU/Bama);
Oh, yeah...Moses missing.
Notice there aren't any prospects from Alabama on there...we're going 5 for 15 for mostly Louisiana guys. That's the problem.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:35 pm to OppositeMan
Yeah, those numbers are a little skewed (as Opposite pointed out) if we aren't taking into account guys that Bama landed w/ LSU offers.
Like this year, if they land Byron Young and Christian Williams, would you have counted those as Bama "wins" - or not, b/c they aren't from LA?
ETA: You did have a few players from Alabama on your list, but it's still skewed. I'm sure we have offered about 1/2 of Bama's current roster.
Like this year, if they land Byron Young and Christian Williams, would you have counted those as Bama "wins" - or not, b/c they aren't from LA?
ETA: You did have a few players from Alabama on your list, but it's still skewed. I'm sure we have offered about 1/2 of Bama's current roster.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:38 pm to billyholawboy
quote:
Like this year, if they land Byron Young and Christian Williams, would you have counted those as Bama "wins" - or not, b/c they aren't from LA?
Christian Williams - I feel like bama isn't really pressing for him to stay in their class, and their insider inbreds have sort of alluded to this in recent publishes.
Byron Young - From MS...committed to bama, and they want him to stay. He's visiting us right before NSD. This is absolutely a head to head battle, imo.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:42 pm to OppositeMan
quote:
several of these weren't really battles
To your point, while Bama recruited Phillips, in the end, it was actually a classic two-team race between Oklahoma and LSU.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:43 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
quote:
Saivion Smith (LSU)
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:04 pm to TchPowDog
The biggest thing is we have to battle them for LOUISIANA kids. While I know you can’t expect all La kids to stay home. If you take the kids who leave for bama (from la) And they go to LSU. LSU has at least another NC
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:09 pm to LSUFreek
quote:
To your point, while Bama recruited Phillips, in the end, it was actually a classic two-team race between Oklahoma and LSU.
Absolutely...and it was us and old piss going after Willie Gay in the same class and at the same time, too.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:37 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
I mean aren't we going after two of there commits right now and they're not even on the list so not sure what this post is referring to
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:03 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
quote:Pretty safe at this point to just say (Bama).
Ish Sospher DT (LSU/Bama)
I'll gladly be back to eat my crow if I'm wrong. But the kid is playing LSU 100%. He's all Bama.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:13 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
quote:
Well, that worked out for us. 247 had Bama as the 2nd school.
Kwon injured his knee his senior season in HS and LSU honored its commitment in their offer. Bama strongly cold shouldered him after that and I believe they may have even reduced it to a grayshirt option (I certainly could be wrong on the GS thing - just recalling from memory that is not real good anymore!)
If you want a real good indicator of the Bama/LSU battles go look at Bama's recruiting classes and count the ones that turned us down. Earlier this past season 247 was running each program's Top 25 recruits of all time on a part of each team's page. 5 of the Bama's top 25 were players they took from us or LA in general.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:40 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Tony Brown?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:58 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:
Pretty safe at this point to just say (Bama). I'll gladly be back to eat my crow if I'm wrong. But the kid is playing LSU 100%. He's all Bama.
But but the experts are saying LSU...
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:14 pm to ecb
Moses is in the 2017 class
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:15 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
2017 was rough
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