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Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:49 pm to
They have more to offer her......especially Fouts
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 1:48 pm to
So when their names are posted, why not put what HS and hometown?
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:10 pm to
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So when their names are posted, why not put what HS and hometown?


Not Tigerbait357, but if you are referring to Ally Shipman, she is transferring from Tennessee to Alabama. She is from the state of California
Posted by Badcallagain
Member since Feb 2019
460 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:09 pm to
Shippman would not have been much of an upgrade overall. Tennessee played a much easier schedule than LSU so Shippmans stats are padded a bit compared to Cummins. Shippman didn’t do much at all with the bat against LSU this past year.

While catcher is a huge concern, I see the biggest problem possibly being who is going to be able to play 3b? Doyle was very strong defensively and played the bunt very well, don’t know if LSU currently has anyone brave enough to play the hot corner. In Coffey’s only game she played at 3b this past year she Ole’d a ball hit to her….not good.

Not sure what happened to Perkins last year, she did play a few games at 3b her freshman year.

Ranking in order the current position needs of LSU, I would say 3b, 2b and then catcher. We definitely need help at catcher but 3b and 2b are looking very questionable.

Will be interesting to see if Torina decides to play such a brutal schedule next year. Personally, I think it was a mistake last year. While the schedule helped with the seeding, the girls seemed to lack confidence most of the year, which can go a long way. When playing such a tough schedule, any team will lose a bunch of games….unfortunately, many fans aren’t smart enough to realize that.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:25 pm to
I’m gonna say catcher is higher than 2B. catcher impacts the defense much more than 2B. All those passed balls lead to runners getting into scoring position is a big deal and a significant contributor to many of the runs we have given up. Got to clean that up
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5331 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 12:04 pm to
I agree... C, SS, and CF are most important defensive positions on team. Get those 3 spots in great shape, every thing else will fall into place.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 12:29 pm to
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I agree... C, SS, and CF are most important defensive positions on team. Get those 3 spots in great shape, every thing else will fall into place.



I think you simply aren't going to replace Andrews no matter who you plug in but Briggs is a great athlete who does everything pretty well. I think she would do a nice job in CF. We actually have a lot of depth in the OF, between Gutierrez, Stewart, Karrington, Brandon, Redoutey, Newland, Madrey. The remaining spots in the corner of the OF will come down to the best bats.

Pleasants actually improved quite a bit at SS to end the year. Is she perfect? No but if she hits above .300 and is a RBI machine she makes up for it.

The three most pressing positions this offseason to me is Catcher, 3B and 2B. The infield defense was the root of our defensive issues in general. Doyle may not have always been the most potent hitter but her steadiness on defense was valuable. It will be interesting to see what the incoming freshmen bring to the table and kids like Pilon being available next year. Jordyn Perkins is so interesting as her bat looks very powerful but not sure how they feel about her defensively at 3B, she really hasn't had many opportunities outside of pinch hitting.

I also wonder if they work hard with Newland at catcher next year. We got to try to get more production out of catcher position, whether its on the defensive end or at the plate.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1479 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 3:15 pm to
I guess I am at the point where I hope all returning players who had lousy 2021 year do something in a more normal offseason to improve for 2022. If not, it might be a long 2022 season. I am not expecting much help from coaching staff
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:51 pm to
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I agree... C, SS, and CF are most important defensive positions on team.


That's a good list but I personally think that 2B is as important or more important than SS. The 2B has far more responsibility with bunt defenses and has to cover the same amount of range as the SS. Arm strength is more important at SS but I'm not sure the overall importance of 2B doesn't outweigh SS.

Just a thought.
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:55 pm to
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Pretty disappointed LSU hasn’t been able to land any help from the portal. Looking like 2B, 3B and catcher


It was a bit disappointing. The portal had some P5 All Conference level players at those positions that probably would have given LSU a shot had they been contacted. I'm hearing of one in particular that probably would have come for little to no money as a grad transfer but LSU didn't contact so I think she is headed to another SEC West school.

It's a tough business for sure but LSU might have missed a couple of chances to get immediately better.
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1479 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:30 pm to
To me that is disappointing. Looks like complacency has set in. I hope this coaching staff surprises me
Posted by GeauxRed3581
Member since Jan 2019
299 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 9:35 am to
I am starting to get the impression that Sanchez was the exception to the rule and Beth has decided that she doesn't have any interest in improving through the portal. I understand honoring your commitment to the kids you recruited but if that really is the case, LSU is going to have a hard time ever getting through the weekend in OKC.
Posted by atlee
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
2042 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:58 pm to
Beth has indicated she prefers to develop her own roster and recruited players. Morale within the program is also important and to bring in players from portal would upset the harmony she works hard to establish from the players already within the program.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:24 am to
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Beth has indicated she prefers to develop her own roster and recruited players. Morale within the program is also important and to bring in players from portal would upset the harmony she works hard to establish from the players already within the program.


I don’t think that’s a bad thing but times are changing across college sports and all your top teams are using the portal to improve their rosters and weak spots.

Rely on developing own players? Right now we are struggling to develop our hitters and we need some help. Not saying you need to add 5 of 6 kids but one or two proven bats or defenders could make a significant difference. It seems like a bit of a stretch to expect us to replace Andrew’s, Doyle while also addressing all those .200 hitters in the lineup this past year in one off-season with no outside help outside returning kids and freshmen. Sure some could get better but we are needing more than just a couple kids to get better. Sunseri and Kilponen will only be able to do so much in the circle (see Hoover and Walljaspers senior year). Transfer season still isn’t done but it would be a pretty big deal if they can bring in a decent bat or even a good 3B or catcher

I’m not sure how Beth could be against the portal, especially with what it has done for her. You could argue her bringing in Hoover catapulted that three consecutive CWS appearances (2015-2017). We don’t go all three seasons without that dynamic duo
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 12:30 am
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7929 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:40 am to
Couldn’t agree more.
Posted by Badcallagain
Member since Feb 2019
460 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:19 am to
The players themselves know what positions are struggling to play at the SEC level. players want to win games and get to a World Series. I guarantee you, the productive players want LSU to bring in other PRODUCTIVE players to help them win. With our current situation at catcher, 2B and 3B, LSU is going to be in worse shape this coming year both offensively and defensively than they were last year.

One transfer player many forget about that ended up being a very good player here was Michaela Schlattman…was hoping LSU could at least land another Schlattman type player at C, 2b or 3b.

It really seems as though 2b and the catcher position have been a very bad recruiting positions for the coaching staff.
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1479 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:36 pm to
All true assuming the position players concerned do not improve in the offseason Apparently that’s our only hope
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 4:25 pm to
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It really seems as though 2b and the catcher position have been a very bad recruiting positions


Huge misses in player evaluation. Stubbornness and insistence to play unproductive Seniors contributed heavily to the below average play at theses positions over the last 4 or 5 years. Self inflicted wounds that greatly cost the program.

Hoping 2022 can change but hard to imagine it will.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:38 pm to
We missed out on Taylor Ellsworth, a graduate transfer catcher out of Texas, All-Big 12 Conference and NFCA All-Region first team who hit .372 this year, she is headed to Arkansas

Would have been nice, a slot holder for one year till Bergeron came in
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
1479 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:38 pm to
Did Maddy Shipman go to Bama? If so, that's another one we could have gotten for a year. Instead, we lose them to schools in our conference......its going to CATCH up to us one day, pun intended
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