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re: LSU picked to land Center Braelin Moore from Virginia Tech
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:41 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:41 am to thunderbird1100
NO ONE on the LSU OL did well run blocking so Chester fit right in. Chester was NOT the one who gave up the LSU sacks or pressures. In addition, C is NOT supposed to be best blocker to begin with. Once again, I don't believe PFF grades as I've said before. Or do you actually believe that Sage Ryan should have a better PFF grade than Whit Weeks as someone documented from PFF.
So you are more than welcome to stick to your opinion which FYI is wrong, and I will stick with Chester being better than some here including yourself claim. You compared Chester with Pocic at the same stage in college. Where did I say that Chester would ever be All American as Pocic eventually was? That does NOT mean Chester is garbage. I do wish these CRAPPY PFF grades would not be quoted. Many posters here have expressed their disbelief of them...starting with Sage Ryan and Whit Weeks. But as I said previously, the WORST grading scale has been for OL and DL. I said I don't even think they have seen the players in games...and I stick with that.
So you are more than welcome to stick to your opinion which FYI is wrong, and I will stick with Chester being better than some here including yourself claim. You compared Chester with Pocic at the same stage in college. Where did I say that Chester would ever be All American as Pocic eventually was? That does NOT mean Chester is garbage. I do wish these CRAPPY PFF grades would not be quoted. Many posters here have expressed their disbelief of them...starting with Sage Ryan and Whit Weeks. But as I said previously, the WORST grading scale has been for OL and DL. I said I don't even think they have seen the players in games...and I stick with that.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 10:47 am
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:43 am to GeauxLSU4
I agree and said something very similar regarding needing consistent reps for young guys yesterday in a different thread.
My point is I just don’t think Mubenga will get there. I could be completely wrong and hope I am if he’s the starter. I just don’t see him as the long term solution and would rather other young guys get those reps.
My point is I just don’t think Mubenga will get there. I could be completely wrong and hope I am if he’s the starter. I just don’t see him as the long term solution and would rather other young guys get those reps.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:55 am to GeauxVU
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My point is I just don’t think Mubenga will get there. I could be completely wrong and hope I am if he’s the starter. I just don’t see him as the long term solution and would rather other young guys
I believe Mubenga starting playing football his SR year in HS so that would qualify as a "young guy". He played soccer up to that point. It is too early to judge him IMO. Looking at all those Florida sacks he gave up, they looked more like being "confused" in blocking responsibility than lack of talent. Having said that, you could be right about Mubenga never making the transition to football from soccer....we'll see.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:57 am to NotaStarGazer
Chester was NOT the one who gave up the LSU sacks or pressures 
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:04 am to thunderbird1100
I would love to no that stat for centers that are in the first year starting as a sophomore.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:06 am to NotaStarGazer
Indeed. And by no means am I hoping he doesn’t succeed. I’d LOVE to be proven wrong.
Getting Chester off of C is also going to do wonders for him. He was definitely overwhelmed with calling protections and just had missed assignments all over.
Putting him in a position where he’s an order taker, rather than order maker, will allow him to focus on his job rather than everyone else’s. I expect him to take a MASSIVE leap forward this offseason.
Getting Chester off of C is also going to do wonders for him. He was definitely overwhelmed with calling protections and just had missed assignments all over.
Putting him in a position where he’s an order taker, rather than order maker, will allow him to focus on his job rather than everyone else’s. I expect him to take a MASSIVE leap forward this offseason.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:11 am to GeauxVU
Mubenga got better. It's hard to cold start against aTm, Bama, Florida, then OU as your first starts to replace a guy who had been starting for 3 years. I wouldn't be shocked if he won the starting spot, but you are right about Curne and Thomas. Curne looks every bit like an SEC OG and so does Thomas.
Is Davis ready to start at RT? I am assuming we will see him in the bowl game an find out.
Is Davis ready to start at RT? I am assuming we will see him in the bowl game an find out.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:20 am to tgdk11
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Whoa.... would be a great pickup. Chester to guard!
He will have to compete. If we bring in a LT and Davis holds down RT, Adams will move inside. Chester will have to fight off a few others to keep a starting job.
We’ve had talent at some of the backup OL positions. The problem was we had virtually no competition because they were all so much younger than the starting 5. One good thing about next season- no job is safe. The young guys we already have, the incoming freshmen, and whoever we bring in from the portal will have to battle their asses off to get on the field, and then to stay on it. That’s a good thing. Maybe that will help next year’s OL develop an edge that this year’s never had.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:22 am to themunch
First, LSU only had about 14 sacks all season. In the Florida game, that was half of the total. And Mubenga was the one who got abused in that game. Now, whether Chester should have helped him or not, I don't know what the blocking scheme was. As I said, Mubenga didn't seem to know what his assignment was...who he was to take. Anyway, if you don't agree fine...I have my opinion and you have expressed yours.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:26 am to LuzianaFootball
Just watched the whole video. The only time he got pushed back was in the OT. He lost his footing once right before halftime on a blitz that got through, but he consistently won his 1v1s, he got to the second level pretty well and actually made the seal block on one of the TDs. On running plays he was consistently 1-2 yds past the LOS for almost all of the game.
I am not sure if the OT period where the DL got some big push skewed what you saw, but from what I saw in that vid, he looked like one of the best OL on VT. That LG looked pretty rough though (yikes).
I am not sure if the OT period where the DL got some big push skewed what you saw, but from what I saw in that vid, he looked like one of the best OL on VT. That LG looked pretty rough though (yikes).
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:45 am to king47
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:49 am to thunderbird1100
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Dont think theres any real competition there, Moore is your starter. He's a 2-year starter from an ACC school and was solid. Echols couldnt get on the field this year and we just had our worst center ever in school history in my memory Moore has 2 more years left too which is great, maybe we get some stability there for a couple seasons with a good player. The path to Echols playing next year is probably at guard.
Let them settle that in camp. As for Echols not getting on the field, he was a true freshman. Chester beat out an experienced Martinez for backup C by mid-season last year and got on the field when Turner went down a couple of times. The fact that he had some experience and a year in the program gave him a big edge. Center is a tough position from the mental side with managing protection calls and snapping the ball consistently. Even with a little SEC playing time, Chester still struggled to execute.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:54 am to TigerGrad03
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This is the type of portal activity we need. A starting center from a P4 that is built more like a center with his frame. Move Chester over to guard and watch him blossom. C - Moore/Echols G - Chester G - Mubinga T - Adams T - ?
I wouldn’t just pencil in Mubinga after the way he struggled when Delly went down. Adams can play Guard and Tackle and I would expect him to move inside if we bring in an experienced tackle from the portal. Then you also have Curne coming in, who is a borderline 5 star (he still may get that star after all-star camps) and may make a push to get on the field early.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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Chester is too tall to be a center Pocic wasnt
Pocic was a very talented and experienced player by the time he moved to Center full time. He overcame being overly tall for the position because of that.
Chester doesn’t have that level of talent and only played some reserve snaps last year. That’s not really much of a comparison. Most average to good OL who are over 6-3 will probably struggle to play Center and instantly get good leverage after the snap.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:04 pm to king47
Nice.
This is what they need.
This is what they need.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:05 pm to tgdk11
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Whoa.... would be a great pickup. Chester to guard!
I don't think Chester is that good. He might get passed up and transfer.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:08 pm to tgdk11
I think Chester will make a good guard. He is simply too tall (6'6") to play center. This VA Tech guy is 6'3". Much better height for a center.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:14 pm to LSU-DUDE
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It doesn't matter to our fan base if he is good or not anything is better than what we have in their eyes it doesn't matter that Chester made ALL SEC freshman team to our fans he is not good, so they want to take anybody
Chester made the freshman team. Not many starting freshman to go up against. He had a record number of snap infringement penalties amongst other issues. He was thinking wayyyyyy too much. Too much pressure came up the middle into Nuss’ face. Made Nuss have happy feet and leery to step up in the pocket. He’ll be a much better guard not having to think so much. Better play up the middle will make Nuss a whole lot better QB.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:28 pm to king47
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LSU picked to land Center
All I needed to hear.....IN!!!
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:33 pm to TigerGrad03
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. Curne looks every bit like an SEC OG and so does Thomas.
The way BK was talking about Curne, he absolutely expects him to push for a role on the Line
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