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Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:41 am to Oizers
The only real change I see is don't sign kids that are questionable to qualify unless you have a plan to replace that kid another way because they will count regardless. So basically nothing for coaches that do their diligence on academics
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:37 am to 1723lale
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so, 85 is scholarship limit. If Seniors leave, some juniors leave for the draft,...say we lose 29 scholarship players, we can still only sign 25 scholarships for the next cycle?
Yes, assuming no back counting (and back counting is still allowed), then 25 is the limit. But this is way it has been for years and years. What has changed is how the counting is done. Before, a recruit wouldn't count until he attended class during a regular session. Now he counts as soon as his signing becomes official. This is more restrictive, so you have less margin to take risks or you could get into trouble.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:56 am to lsufanva
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unless you have a plan to replace that kid another way
Your overall point about signing questionable qualifies is spot on. To emphasize it even more, once a kid signs, there really isn't anyway to replace him--not even delayed. The only new scholarship player who doesn't count is a walk on who's been in the program for at least 2 years. All transfers count against the 25 too.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:49 pm to LuckyTiger
25 is our number,we signed 24 last year,I think we gave Rucker the last
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:02 pm to Drillingman
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This new rule — as some have incorrectly feared — does not mean you can't sign over 25 players. You simply need to have wiggle room created via early enrollees, as always — you just can't take too many risks and lose that initial counter.
We signed 24 last year FYI.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:04 pm to Bayoutigre
Rucker would count towards 85. He’s a walk on which has nothing to do with recruiting.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:01 pm to Bayoutigre
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25 is our number,we signed 24 last year,I think we gave Rucker the last
Rucker and Caleb Lewis both got scholarships last year, but they don't count toward the 25 since they were enrolled at school for at least 2 years before getting on scholarship.
We did take 24 guys last year, so based on that, we can take at least 26 this year. On top of that, there may be more room in the class because we don't know how many of our 6 early entrants last spring were applied to the 2016-2017 limit (i.e. back-counted). And I don't know the specifics, but there's a chance that Seth Stewart won't count against us.
But keep in mind, there's the 85 player total limit and we only have 17 scholarship seniors* by my count
*including Caleb Lewis who is a junior, but is definitely not coming back
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:26 pm to 1723lale
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1723lale LSU has 25, 27 or 28 schollies to Give ? So, say 10 guys declare for the NFL draft, why are those spots not available to be filled?
I think the language of the rules permits that. In order to do that, the player "withdraws" and the rules permit replacement of players who withdraw before the season starts.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:18 am to WAR TIGER
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Thanks to Nick Saban. Little shithead.
He signed 29 last year and doesn’t have many commits this year, good time to do it
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:50 am to Indiana Tiger
This sounds like it covers grayshirting. It mentions the recruit must already be a student. So if LSU had someone they recruited before the Fall 2018 semester, they enrolled and attended in the Spring/Summer they can be counted towards the 2018 class and not the 2019 class. I could be wrong though. I have had only 1 cup of coffee.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:56 am to MLU
I don't think it affects gray shirts.
Early entry guys can count toward the current year (commonly called back counting) or the next year (normal). If you ask a guy to gray shirt in the spring, they pay their own way in the fall and then get on scholarship in January, at which time they'll count against the next year's class (the class that gets finalized in February).
I hope this makes sense. I've only had one cup of coffee too.
Early entry guys can count toward the current year (commonly called back counting) or the next year (normal). If you ask a guy to gray shirt in the spring, they pay their own way in the fall and then get on scholarship in January, at which time they'll count against the next year's class (the class that gets finalized in February).
I hope this makes sense. I've only had one cup of coffee too.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:14 am to Dudebro2
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I’m willing to wager several teams will go over 25.
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They CAN'T dumbass it would be a RULES VIOLATION!!! The new rules adopted this summer put a HARD cap on the number of signees you can accept in a recruiting class each year. No if's and's or but's about it! So unless a team wants an immediate rules violation with major consequences then NO there isn't a team that will sign more than 25 in a class.
According to 247 these teams now have the following number of signees, and this is just after a quick glance at the highest rated classes:
Georgia 26
Ohio State 26
Texas 27
Notre Dame 27
UCLA 27
Virginia Tech 26
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