re: Lindsey Scott Jr Offered, According to his twitter.

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Man...some of you are just not smart

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I don't believe they arent smart as much as they have zero perspective outside of the bubble that is South La.

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but an Ivy undergrad degree for most jobs in most southern cities, including every city in Louisiana, might be marginally better than having the same Alma mater as the person making the hiring decision and is certainly not better than having played football at that Alma mater. Two things; 1. You're an absolute moron if you believe this. 2. There is no way you are over 21.

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It really depends on what city in the south, but for example, a lawyer working for a firm in Monroe who has a law degree from Harvard will not command a larger salary than a law grad from LSU. That would probably be different in Atlanta. But outside of maybe New Orleans for the really large firms, and Atlanta, Nashville and maybe one or two other cities, a Harvard or Yale degree doesn't add value in most of the south because they can't charge more in most markets than other lawyers. Thus, firms in towns like Shreveport, Monroe, Lafayette, and Lake Charles will not pay more salary for an Ivy degree. The value of the Ivy degrees comes primarily in larger markets and, even there, in the larger firms or specialized firms. The degree opens doors and provides opportunities to a larger range of places and higher levels in particular markets. The same is true for undergrad degrees. Whether the degree adds actual value will depend on the particular market, and for most jobs in Louisiana or Mississippi, an Ivy degree is nice, but it does not likely produce a significantly higher, if any at all, return.

IF LS is promised a legit opportunity to compete for the starting job, then I would would roll with LSU. I would come in with a huge chip on my shoulder knowing my swag\skills are better than anyone else competing for the QB position.

Only if I was promised a legit shot at competing for the starting job though

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Two things; 1. You're an absolute moron if you believe this. 2. There is no way you are over 21.

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Again, what good job in Louisiana is going to an applicant with an undergrad degree from Harvard over an otherwise identical applicant (same certifications, same graduate work, same degree, same intelligence) from LSU who is a football player?
It's not like I'm saying that a football player who barely graduates in general studies is going to take a finance job from a Harvard MBA. My point is that if an employer believes that two candidates are equally able to perform the duties, and one was an LSU football player, that guy is getting the job. Almost every job requires at least some client/customer/outside interaction, and in Louisiana having a guy who can tell stories about his time playing football for LSU is a bonus.

The Harvard resume might end up at the top of the stack, but the football player's resume was never on a stack to begin with because that hiring decision was made over a lunch with someone from the C-suite.

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I don't believe they arent smart as much as they have zero perspective outside of the bubble that is South La.

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This entire conversation is about what goes on inside that bubble. My entire position is based on the existence of that bubble.

I'm not sure how you can acknowledge that Louisiana is in its own bubble where nationally standard hiring practices do not apply while at the same time call me stupid for saying that Louisiana is in its own bubble where nationally standard hiring practices do not apply.

I'm outside that bubble and haven't lived there since undergrad. In my current city, my LSU degree is clearly less valuable than an Ivy league degree, and the difference between my JD and an Ivy JD is even more pronounced. I have a bunch of friends with elite undergrad degrees and elite graduate degrees. The ones with elite undergrad degrees and no graduate degree or non-elite graduate degrees have jobs and incomes that are comparable to mine or worse. The ones with the elite graduate degrees are OT ballers regardless of where they went to undergrad.

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It really depends on what city in the south, but for example, a lawyer working for a firm in Monroe who has a law degree from Harvard will not command a larger salary than a law grad from LSU. That would probably be different in Atlanta. But outside of maybe New Orleans for the really large firms, and Atlanta, Nashville and maybe one or two other cities, a Harvard or Yale degree doesn't add value in most of the south because they can't charge more in most markets than other lawyers. Thus, firms in towns like Shreveport, Monroe, Lafayette, and Lake Charles will not pay more salary for an Ivy degree. The value of the Ivy degrees comes primarily in larger markets and, even there, in the larger firms or specialized firms. The degree opens doors and provides opportunities to a larger range of places and higher levels in particular markets. The same is true for undergrad degrees. Whether the degree adds actual value will depend on the particular market, and for most jobs in Louisiana or Mississippi, an Ivy degree is nice, but it does not likely produce a significantly higher, if any at all, return.

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Exactly. And I'm not even talking JDs; you are right about return, but a Harvard JD is clearly better than an LSU JD. My point is that, for a job in Louisiana, a guy who went to Harvard undergrad and LSU law school doesn't really have an advantage over a guy who went to LSU undergrad and LSU law school and for most jobs is probably at a disadvantage to a guy who played football at LSU and then went to any law school.

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studentsect

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Downvote for that huge wall of text. Now STFU

Some posters here want LSU to fail.

There's never any sunshine for them.

This is a good thing.