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Posted on 2/5/10 at 8:44 am to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52837 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 8:44 am to
quote:

They go on to note that message boards do play a part into the recruit's decision and that the infighting and bashing was a major turn off.


Not true at all. She says nothing of this.

She simply says it was hurtful to her and her family to see some of the info and being NAMED directly.

She made no mention of it entering into the decision.
Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 8:48 am to
For all of you immature, sad people, who think you have power and insight to post critical opinions on 17 year old kids, and brutalize coaches even though you have never been a coach, you ought to quit posting. This should be a wake up call for all idiots and insecure haters. But then again, if you are a moron, you probably can't understand this.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24785 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:01 am to
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For all of you immature, sad people, who think you have power and insight to post critical opinions on 17 year old kids, and brutalize coaches even though you have never been a coach, you ought to quit posting. This should be a wake up call for all idiots and insecure haters. But then again, if you are a moron, you probably can't understand this.


So where does this comment fall for all of the so called "posi-tigers" that motherfrick a recruit to death when he chooses a different school? So long as they are branded as losers as well, then fine.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24622 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:06 am to
7 Moves, people like you are just as bad as the criti-tigers.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:10 am to
The op failed to mention that the parent who posted was being specificaLly referenced by another poster in the site and saying he was receiving information from her... Little different than just talking about a player...
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31464 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:21 am to
well this subject sure is the flavor of the month. i'll admit this board can be pretty "negative" sometimes and that i contribute to it, but this is not unique at all. i read team boards of every kind and we are nothing unique. if you think tigerdroppings is the only team board that criticizes the players, coaches, and overall program then you are naive. any program a kid is picking from has a board out there with criiticism of the program (even the bama boards find something to bitch about right now). the idea though that a parent or player would turn away from a program based on something they read from a random poster is mindboggling. if it comes down to what we're saying then that's more an indictment on the recruit's decision ability and the staff's handling of his recruitment than anything else. please put a nail in this stupid subject.
This post was edited on 2/5/10 at 9:22 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44292 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:25 am to
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When you check the websites, you see fans making fun of you, saying they don't want you and that you are overrated.


It's a curse of having one of the greatest websites at your fingertips....very few have boards like this one.

(You can pay me later Chicken.......:-)
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36718 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:03 am to
Why are a couple posters more interested in outing the player than considering the issue?

To me I don't see the need to ID who it was... it's the fact that it seems to happen that matters (more than whose specific mother was honest about it happening).

My assumption is that the player is someone we are happy to have landed and there's no reason to make them second guess their decision by calling them names for being influenced by flames etc on a website
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:22 am to
quote:

quote:


They go on to note that message boards do play a part into the recruit's decision and that the infighting and bashing was a major turn off.


Not true at all. She says nothing of this.


A portion of her post was "Regardless of what you think, these boards do play a part into the recruit's decision. If you can't get along among yourselves and bash everyone and everything that's done, how do you think you look to outsiders?"

If that's going too far on posting "premium" stuff, I'll delete this post. This is not her full post so the way I read the rules this is OK. If not, Chicken let me know and I will delete.

But I had to respond to the notion that this was "not true at all."

And yes, she was upset at a particular poster. But her message to that Board turned broader once a dialogue began with her by other, quality posters.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:38 am to
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Wow extremetigerfanatic, you are a real dick.


+1000
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24622 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:36 am to
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Posted byMessage
lsusteve1


Anyhow, bashing a recruit is uncalled for...and we try our best to get rid of posters that cross the line (we have seen a ton of emails lately from people looking to be reinstated). I would say that very few posters "bash" recruits...and most of the posts like that are removed when we see them.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:55 am to
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The only ones that we were ripping on were Bates, Blackmon and Fordham. Unless Jordan Meisner got offended.


They weren't the only ones, but Bates and Fordham got it the worst.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3104 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:57 am to
Good post, Mike Linebacker.

I agree with those who say that it shouldn't be a big deal to a recruit even if every poster on TD says terrible things about them or the team/coach. I wouldn't call a recruit an idiot for not choosing LSU because of what's said on TD, but it probably isn't very wise to limit your decision or make life changing decisions based on what some hot-head is spewing.

... but to say it doesn't play a role at all is naive. Making a commitment to a school is fairly analogous to job hunting and interviewing.

If you are interviewing, you base your decision primarily on where you fit in and what your role will be (what position you are being recruited for would be the recruiting equivalent), what the opportunities for advancement are (playing time and depth chart), and the values of the company and the vibe of the people you deal with (akin to the family vibe that recruits look for). But, thorough applicants also try to talk to as many people as possible in the company (fans)--even if far flung departments that they won't work with on a daily basis-- to try to get a better feeling for the company. If you get a lot of negative feedback from these people, and they are telling you that you will set your career back if you take this job offer, you would be wise to not entirely ignore it. Take it with a grain of salt-- absolutely-- you shouldn't let some disgruntled clerk in the shipping department dissuade you from accepting a VP job in marketing. But if you hold another offer and everything else is equal (position, playing time, values), but the overall morale at company B is better, then it is not at all unreasonable to think this might affect your decision.

I find it really simplistic the way some people in this thread say: I only want kids that want LSU, if they don't screw them. Why would you want to turn people off to your school before they've had a chance to fall in love with it, too. Commitments are usually a two way street, and the more a school can commit to helping the recruit and standing behind him, the more willing a recruit is to commit his talents to help the school. After a kid commits (let me stress it again... AFTER!) then, it is wise to ignore the critics and focus on your job and do everything in your power to do your best as a Tiger, but to ignore those voices ahead of time is bad due diligence. (Due diligence, for the uninformed, is doing your homework and investigating a deal thoroughly before you commit to it.)

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:04 pm to
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I would say that very few posters "bash" recruits...and most of the posts like that are removed when we see them.


Chicken: I've got to give you credit for removing derogatory posts/threads in a timely manner. Especially in the last week or so.


Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24622 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:32 pm to
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Chicken: I've got to give you credit for removing derogatory posts/threads in a timely manner. Especially in the last week or so.
I can't take all the credit...I have a great admin team.

To the admin team:
Posted by Dickaroo
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2007
395 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:40 pm to


Here's to Chicken and his Admin Team!!!

Good Job and Thank you!
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