re: Jarrell Martin scout article

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Well, then we can't credit Brady for signing Tyrus Thomas, Garrett Temple, etc. since no one recruited them.

If he has such a keen eye for under appreciated talent, he missed out on Granger

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Granger's senior year was 1981 and LSU was in the middle of draconian sanctions and scholarships were limited. They signed the top two rated players in Louisiana in Antonio Hudson and JuMichael Young. Hudson had a solid career, young had off the court issues and did not last long in the program. They also needed a backup PG to Torris Bright and signed Xavier Whipple. Granger was not a high profile recruit for LSU or anyone else and signed with a mid major Bradley.

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How come Brady had success during the sanctions?

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Brady signed Stromile Swift, Jabari Smith, Brian Beshara, Lamont Roland, Jermaine Williams, Marquis Ledoux, Collis Temple III, Brad Bridgewater and a couple others before the NCAA handed down the sanctions. I doubt Brady or anyone at LSU expected the sanctions to be so severe. That is why he had success.

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How come Brady had some terrible seasons not under the sanctions?

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The sanctions were applicable for the 1999, 2000 and 2001 recruiting seasons, but the effects would last 3 to 4 seasons due to the cumulative effects on the program. If you don't think these were draconian sanctions why don't you compare tehm to the sanction applied to most programs since. Invariably the schools have been allowed to decide their own penalties and the NCAA has essentially rubber stamped them with maybe a few minor modifications.

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I guess those sanctions got him beat by Wisconsin and UAB, and I guess those sanctions got them outcoached and outplayed by UCLA. Good thing the sanctions went easy on him during the Duke and Texas games.

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If we accept your premise he got outcoached in those defeats then you have to concede he outcoached Coach K, Rick Barnes, Lute Olson, Bruce Pearl, Tubby Smith, Billy Donovan, Jim Calhoun, Billy Gillespie, Mark Gottfried, John Beilen and Steve Alford among others.

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Granger's senior year was 1981

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Danny Granger wasn't even sperm in a nutsack in 1981 you stupid frick.

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As for your comment that "if we accept your premise..."....it wasn't a fricking premise. I watched those games. I witnessed him getting outcoached in those games with more talented teams. I did that with my own eyes. I would only argue that maybe, and just maybe, UCLA had a more talented team at the time, but Brady undoubtedly got outcoached in that game. No adjustments. No attempt to slow down the break of UCLA. No attempt to do a damn thing differently than in the first 20 minutes when things began and continued falling a

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it happens every year to good temas and good coaches or even great coaches in teh NCAA tournament ---- they get upset by seemingly inferior teams or unknown coaches. You are the one who wants to conveniently cherry pick losses and attribute it to a poor coaching job. some times teams just don't play well or get a bad matchup. It works for you and against you sometimes. As I said it your premise is always going to be LSU lost because of a poor coaching job then you gotta credit him for victories over those exalted coaches. i didn't disparage those coaches except for Bruce Pearl whom I still contend was incredibly overrated and a media hog.

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You're clearly not an LSU fan. You are only a Brady fan. If you were an LSU fan, you would not be here arguing this

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I have been an LSu fan since Jay MCcreary was coaching, watched Dick Maile on the SEC game of the week, was in Cow Barn when Pete broke Big O's record, saw Dales'e first game vs Memphis State, stormed the court when Darnell beat Bama at the buzzer, was there the night Kentucky was beaten in OT by five subs, was there when they dropped teh banner on BAMA, in the Dome when they beat Wichita State and also when they broke attendance records vs UCLA, Notre Dame and G town, in Atlanta when mighty Kentucky was slain to go the Fianl Four, heartbroken wehn Fess missed the FT, sat spellbound when CJ wove his magic, there when Shaq had teh mosnster dunk, thre when Randy destroyed opponents on one leg until he could run no more ( the day the music died for LSU BB), there for Jabris monster slam, there for BAby and Tyrus magic run, marvelled at Marcus, shared highs and lows with Taz. I think my Tiger bloodlines run deeper than Brady.

I usually do not post in basketball recruiting threads but:

This is not the rant! Go argue over there. This board and it's threads are about potential future LSU players. Y'all need to get this back on topic and move the other stuff to the rant. It has been about 3 pages since anyone has posted something about Jarell Martin.

Thank you.

And?

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I told him "what's up bro?" and he said "not much man". True story. Ask hippo

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Never has a "cool story bro" been more appropriate. So cool story bro.

The talent is back, win 20 games somehow this year and LSU could be a common theme in final fours. The talent is that good. Thats quite a statement. I'd be happy if LSU were a common theme in the tournament--something that I have yet to witness.