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re: Jacoby Matthews has decommitted.

Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by beardkp
H-Town
Member since Feb 2013
1036 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
I guess I just don’t understand the ‘want to get treated differently/fancier on my officials’ angle…..what does that matter unless you’re hoping for money offers?

And if there’s a Bryce Anderson hardcore aspect of this, then he isn’t coming back. BA is going to be at A&M..
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79069 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
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There was a “very emotional” call to LSU prior to his decomittment, I am NOT privy to exact conversation. But did get cliff notes. This was done as a family decision. Nil is not, and I repeat Not the cause. For obvious reasons I can’t reveal motivation directly by Mathews family. But what I can generally say is all recruits are allowed 5 all paid for official visits.Now when families attend these visits the actual treatment of recruits and families vary drastically dependent on if said recruit is already committed elsewhere or open thus getting Red Carpet treatment- Especially 5-Star talent.


So are you saying it looks like his family wants to have a 5 star treatment visit and forced him to decommit just so they can get the red carpet treatment?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45518 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Now LSU has to re-recruit him when resources could have gone towards others prospects.


And ultimately hurts the team he may end up playing for.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:01 pm to
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What the frick are you melting about?

nothing dumbass, i was responding to dip shite. melting on a kid this far from signing day is dumb as hell.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24882 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Now LSU has to re-recruit him when resources could have gone towards others prospects.



Yeah this aint how it works. Coaches that are on top of it NEVER stop recruiting kids that commit. Thats a rookie mistake.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:05 pm to
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It's going to be funny when these kids don't live up to their NIL expectations and the $$ dries up over their College Career.

you know it's gonna happen and create "bad blood"


You will also see some bad blood on teams from the “have’s” and the “have nots”
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4180 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Jacoby Matthews has decommitted.
One company is doing this? Nah, that's where the depth of Texas, a&m, uga, ufs alumni bases come in. And no, every kid doesn't get 500k, but 5* 30 minutes from your rivals does. Albert Means got paid $200k 30 years ago. Stop being stupid.


Yes, and the FBI got involved didn't they and the booster was convicted (Bribery, racketeering and tax issues, etc) .
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4180 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Jacoby Matthews has decommitted.
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Can the ncaa step in and put a cap $ per school or will that only push school to leave the ncaa faster?


The NCAA is done. They will end up being a special events planner putting on championships like the basketball tournament. The conferences have all the power now and will have to control it, but if you're a&m, uga, florida, Bama...and Texas, why the hell would you?


Well where this will end up is after the IRS nails a bunch of football players (tax evasion) and boosters for tax violations (trying to run expenses through that are not legal deductions) this will hit the US Congress and it will be subject to regulation. Any recruit from one state signed by school in another state invites cross-state potential racketeering, money laundering and defacto is involved in interstate commerce (Feds).

Federal Government will get involved in this, and I think sooner rather than later.
Posted by GeauxTiger4life
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
271 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:15 pm to
They will because a lot of those kids and family are not educated on paying taxes on money they will be receiving which may cause a lot of players and family to get into trouble with the IRS!
Posted by Choupiqueboy
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2019
1626 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:29 pm to
Wasn’t he supposed to be recruiting for LSU?

But Orgeron is “ahead of this...”!!
Posted by steve123
Member since Jul 2011
1376 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:42 pm to
Sure. I wasn’t implying that it’s radio silence from the coaches between a verbal commitment and signing day. But now we’ve gone from having a kid who was committed and supposedly helping to bring in other Louisiana kids to not even having him in the barn. I would assume that more time and effort is going to be spent in the latter scenario.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:54 pm to
Free market. LOL. You think there is a free market?

Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
506 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:56 pm to
I agree with this, I'd put money you see Oregon as a major player in recruiting now, even more than they are. With ties already in place with Nike how easy will those high end NIL endorsement deals fall into place? How long before the deep snapper or extra point holder at one of the big boys is paid more than entire lower division teams?

Some kind of limit or check should have been implemented. This should have been better thought out before going completely lawless wild west. A set amount of pool money for each team or even a salary cap type limit per position might have worked. Anything to try and keep some resemblance of college football as we know it.
Posted by Harleaux
For Worth
Member since Nov 2018
50 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:00 pm to
Coach O gotta do a better job. Over the last few years we have had so many players decommit its not even funny.

Im not talking "processed" either. real decommits. Big time programs dont have these same type of issues.

The program gotta do better.
Posted by ELTIGRE52
Lexington.Ky
Member since Apr 2020
454 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:01 pm to
Bye, tired of attention seeking teenagers, whose word mean nothing.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2877 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:03 pm to
BAMA now has NIL to filter booster payments, Saban will cherry pick all top recruits. Unfortunately for top recruits, only 22 starters out of 85 scholarships.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4180 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Jacoby Matthews has decommitted.
Free market. LOL. You think there is a free market?


Well I was using that to make a point, it is a market, but ripe with inefficiencies because it is not a liquid market (Publicly traded stocks, for example).

So no, it is not a Liquid market, i.e. US Stock exchange which requires all publicly traded companies to file with the SEC.

So I used "Free market" in the context that the student athlete is free to negotiate their NIL deal. That is the context, not that the market for NIL dollars is a liquid and efficient market.

Am I being clear now
Posted by msptigers
LSU Alumnus
Member since Jun 2021
755 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Yes, and the FBI got involved didn't they and the booster was convicted (Bribery, racketeering and tax issues, etc) .


Are you slow? You can sign a kid to contract now. I was referring to the amount he was paid because you're scoffing like kids such as Cam Newton haven't been getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for years under the table. Now it's just out in the open and the prices are only gonna get higher.
Posted by msptigers
LSU Alumnus
Member since Jun 2021
755 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:09 pm to
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BAMA now has NIL to filter booster payments, Saban will cherry pick all top recruits. Unfortunately for top recruits, only 22 starters out of 85 scholarships.


Not according the JKMolesterton. Kids can only make money off of social media. No way Bryant Bank is gonna pay the starting QB a million to be on their commercials, social media and print advertising because it's not tax deductible.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by msptigers
LSU Alumnus
Member since Jun 2021
755 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:12 pm to
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Well I was using that to make a point, it is a market, but ripe with inefficiencies because it is not a liquid market (Publicly traded stocks, for example).

So no, it is not a Liquid market, i.e. US Stock exchange which requires all publicly traded companies to file with the SEC.

So I used "Free market" in the context that the student athlete is free to negotiate their NIL deal. That is the context, not that the market for NIL dollars is a liquid and efficient market.

Am I being clear now


Should we start naming publicly traded companies that use entertainers and athletes to promote their brand? Or company's like Ochsner, Mockler, CocaCola Bottling of BR, The Advocate, etc that pay to advertise at LSU and would gladly pay Kayshon Boutte to be on their billboard or their commercial. The fact that you're acting like it's nefarious for companies public and private to have a marketing budget is laughable and dimwitted. A&M, Texas, Bama, UGA, Florida all have connections to more of these alums/businesses with deeper pockets than LSU does.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 4:21 pm
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