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Is it fair to say that if any current LSU commit...
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:18 am
Leaves now that LSU hasn’t asked to look elsewhere, then recruiting has very little to do with on the field accomplishments?
My goodness, LSU just ran the table on everything you could do in regards to football and family!
I get that it might not yet attract a flip our way and that an entire recruiting cycle might be needed to fully cash in on the programs accomplishments.
But damn, why the F would you leave this current class if you are currently committed and LSU wants you in?
I know I know...$$$$$
My goodness, LSU just ran the table on everything you could do in regards to football and family!
I get that it might not yet attract a flip our way and that an entire recruiting cycle might be needed to fully cash in on the programs accomplishments.
But damn, why the F would you leave this current class if you are currently committed and LSU wants you in?
I know I know...$$$$$
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:22 am to champj3
Because recruiting isn’t always about team beat x so player y is crazy for going to team x.
I don’t know why so many on this board do not understand that.
I don’t know why so many on this board do not understand that.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:23 am to champj3
Not expert, but would think each case is different.
Winning has to be a large factor, but not only one.
- Playing time
- NFL pipeline
- Distance to/away from home
- System
- Coach relationship
Winning has to be a large factor, but not only one.
- Playing time
- NFL pipeline
- Distance to/away from home
- System
- Coach relationship
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:23 am to champj3
Recruiting is complicated.
Location. Some kids want to be close to home.
Depth chart. Kids want to play early.
There are a ton of reasons why kids pick a school and reasons why they may flip.
And no $$$$ is the excuse all schools use when they lose a recruit.
Location. Some kids want to be close to home.
Depth chart. Kids want to play early.
There are a ton of reasons why kids pick a school and reasons why they may flip.
And no $$$$ is the excuse all schools use when they lose a recruit.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:36 am to champj3
Big time recruits have a realistic dream of the NFL. They are looking for a place that is going to help them best achieve that. Coaching, scheme,exposure surrounding talent and playing time. The college experience is important but probably secondary.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:40 am to champj3
There is a lot more that goes into choosing a school than whether one team is better than another or which one can win a NC or conference championship.
A lot of it may not even be football related. May like the campus and curriculum of a particular school better and just feel more at home or comfortable there with the people and surroundings. It's not like what school you go to is going to make a difference in whether you get drafted or where in the draft you go. NFL can find and evaluate you at Vanderbilt just as easily as at Alabama if that is a concern. People and posters seem to think being on the best team is the primary concern of recruits and I would think it plays a smaller part than they think.
A lot of it may not even be football related. May like the campus and curriculum of a particular school better and just feel more at home or comfortable there with the people and surroundings. It's not like what school you go to is going to make a difference in whether you get drafted or where in the draft you go. NFL can find and evaluate you at Vanderbilt just as easily as at Alabama if that is a concern. People and posters seem to think being on the best team is the primary concern of recruits and I would think it plays a smaller part than they think.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:41 am to champj3
A lot of it isn’t about what a team does on the field
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:41 am to champj3
Everyone defines "fit" deifferently. I do think it's weird how someone could go through the entire cycle and then get swayed in the final week to go against what they felt was best fit for them.
I'm sure competitors are telling them things like:
-This year's success was mainly due to Burrow being a once in a generation talent
-Brady will be leaving LSU
-You won't get as many touches
-I wouldn't be surprised if some schools will infer that they can smoke weed without getting suspended
I'm sure competitors are telling them things like:
-This year's success was mainly due to Burrow being a once in a generation talent
-Brady will be leaving LSU
-You won't get as many touches
-I wouldn't be surprised if some schools will infer that they can smoke weed without getting suspended
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:44 am to champj3
To be honest we’re not really gonna reap the benefits of our accomplishments this season until next recruiting class..will it help us close this recruiting class out with a bang? Sure but next year we can truly expect to see a major boom off this years success!
Geaux Tigers!!
Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:44 am to N2daWild
LSU and Orgeron are viewed as a one hit wonder until we do it for a couple seasons. Every coach in the country is telling recruits Burrow is graduating and Brady is leaving.
Depth chart, pipeline to the NFL and relationships are much more important to on the field accomplishments.
Depth chart, pipeline to the NFL and relationships are much more important to on the field accomplishments.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:45 am to champj3
They look to see who (other players) they are competing against. Some don't want competition.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:52 am to N2daWild
quote:
The college experience is important but probably secondary.
for some it is and for others it isn't. Recruits, just like the rest of society, don't come out of some mold where they all have the same personality characteristics.
Some may just like being in a place like Nashville, Athens, or Austen and like the campus and college life there more than in Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa. Some have always wanted to get out of state and some want to stay close to home. Some may want a degree in a particular major from a certain university and some don't care about academics at all. All kinds of considerations besides just being on the best football team they can get on.
NOw I think last night was huge though for recruiting, just how well Burrow came off and how emotional and inspiring it was and same for Coach Orgeron and LSU. Also LSU's current spot in the football world and the state of its football program is a big deal but it is not the end all be all.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:55 am to BeeFense5
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I don’t know why so many on this board do not understand that.
He commented on "current commitments", not recruits in general, so I don't understand how your response is particularly relevant.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:59 am to champj3
Think of it this way....
The speed limit is 70. Everyone is going 80. A few are going 120.
The ones who go 120 are going to eventually get pulled over and get a ticket (probation).
The speed limit is 70. Everyone is going 80. A few are going 120.
The ones who go 120 are going to eventually get pulled over and get a ticket (probation).
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:19 pm to Coonass
quote:
Not expert, but would think each case is different.
Winning has to be a large factor, but not only one.
- Playing time
- NFL pipeline
- Distance to/away from home
- System
- Coach relationship
Pretty spot on IMHO.
Winning gives you 3 (of many) things: a general positive atmosphere, more weight to what coaches say/pitch/marketing, and momentum.
A positive atmosphere can be manufactured or sold
Momentum only lasts until another of the above factors comes into play.
Weight to the coaches pitch is priceless.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:24 pm to champj3
Said the same thing last night. Got downvoted.
These kids just want to get to the NFL as the highest draft pick they can get and want to get paid the most while they are waiting to get to the NFL.
Sure, there are some outliers that don’t feel this way, but the majority of them do.
These kids just want to get to the NFL as the highest draft pick they can get and want to get paid the most while they are waiting to get to the NFL.
Sure, there are some outliers that don’t feel this way, but the majority of them do.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:06 pm to champj3
quote:
Leaves now that LSU hasn’t asked to look elsewhere, then recruiting has very little to do with on the field accomplishments?
Too many of you look at recruiting through the narrow lens of the team's accomplishments.
There are multiple reasons why recruits choose to go to a school. Believe it or not, there are recruits out there that couldn't give two shits about winning championships. I'm sure a lot of them think, yeah a championship would be nice but I have other things I value more.
Recruits can be motivated by any of the following (not an exhaustive list):
1. Playing time, particularly playing early
2. Program prestige
3. Relationships with coaches
4. NFL potential
5. Getting their arse kissed
6. Playing for a contender
7. Who can supply the biggest bag
8. Proximity to home
9. Who their parents like the most
For most it's a combination of the above, but not everyone has the same #1 priority. The coaches know this, they find out what makes the player tick and do their best to address it. Sometimes even the best programs can't address a players #1 need. Once people come to grips to this you'll be a lot better off.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:06 pm to champj3
If recruiting was only about results on the field you'd see nothing but dream classes every year for the same few teams. I mean, you see historic classes sometimes but it's not that common.
Where you see a disaster a recruit sees opportunity. Why would a WR want to flip here? Simple. Competition. Why would he go to a much lesser program? Instant PT? Closer to home? Many reasons. It's not as clear cut as it is to you as a fan. They place value where you might not. Maybe a recruit wants a championship. Maybe they look at NFL opportunity before anything as a business decisions. Maybe they see PT. Maybe distance is the most important factor. etc.
Where you see a disaster a recruit sees opportunity. Why would a WR want to flip here? Simple. Competition. Why would he go to a much lesser program? Instant PT? Closer to home? Many reasons. It's not as clear cut as it is to you as a fan. They place value where you might not. Maybe a recruit wants a championship. Maybe they look at NFL opportunity before anything as a business decisions. Maybe they see PT. Maybe distance is the most important factor. etc.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/15/19 at 4:43 pm to deuce985
quote:
If recruiting was only about results on the field you'd see nothing but dream classes every year for the same few teams. I mean, you see historic classes sometimes but it's not that common.
Yeah, wasn't it just a couple of years ago that people were crying about so many players looking for an easy road to the championship with Bama? Now we're saying they should want to jump on a winner and it's pointless to go elsewhere.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 4:54 pm to champj3
Recruiting is a dirty game, just have to hope your team has tricks up their sleeves to fight the game, LOL
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