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re: Is Adrian Ealy still at Uhigh?

Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by wildman77
The Milky Way
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:38 pm to
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The problem is we've gotten soooo far left that people honestly believe that wealthy people shouldn't be allowed to to give to poor people the money passes through the govts hands first and the they determine what is "fair"!
I couldn't give a shite less who pays for what! My original point, before the little girl took offense, is a lot of schools do it! Just like all coaches recruit in some way! Some attend middle school games, pick out players they think they'd like to have on their team, and decide the best means to approach the parents or guardians. Whether they do it themselves, or have someone else do it on behalf of the program to keep their hands clean! No coach or school is above it! If you don't think it's true then you're delusional!
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:05 pm to
I'm agreeing with you Wildmann77! I'm a middle school administrator and former HS football coach, I see it all the time. And I plan on sending my kid to U HIGH and hope he's an athlete and am fine if a less fortunate kid who has a benifactor starts over him bc he's a better athlete. I was just agreeing with Ashlyn that it should be totally acceptable for somebody to help out a less fortunate kid have a brighter future even if the reason is because of their athletic ability!
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:41 am to
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There is no law or rule that takes that freedom away from anyone gracious enough to offer assistance to others. I'm quite positive that schools of all forms (public, private, lab, charter) take money from private individuals and apply it toward the cost of many things associated with these schools including athletics. 

thankfully now there's a rule that ensures public schools who can't, no longer have to play private schools who can...
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:40 am to
wildman as said before and agreed many times before all schools recruit....

but who from PBS offered to pay tuition.... to chicken shite to name names......seems like you are the little girl throwing things out there with no facts....

just throw out accusations without basis..... because it never happened...
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 4:45 am
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:36 am to
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thankfully now there's a rule that ensures public schools who can't, no longer have to play private schools who can...


Right, because no students get a full tuition, books and fees scholarship at a public school along with public and private booster club funding.

If any school has the unquestioned advantage its magnets with tax payer funded scholarahips for everybody, no cost meals and no cost transportation for most with no attendance zones.

The LHSAA is a product of the "it's not fair crowd" that adopted the ole saying if you can't beat them kick them out.
Thankfully the LHSAA started a JV league for all the whiners.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 5:38 am
Posted by wildman77
The Milky Way
Member since Jun 2010
292 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:27 am to
Ok dude. Let me appease you. Parkview Baptist has NEVER done anything wrong! PBS and those who have attended and supported it over the years have NEVER even had a bad or sinfully thought enter their minds! PBS is the most upstanding, holy, and sanctified establishment on the planet! PBS is the gold seal standard that all other schools should try to emulate! How's that? Satisfied now? Now go sit your sensitive punk arse down somewhere and un-bunch your panties! Not everyone is a snitch like you! And it sounds to me like that's ALL you want to do is find out who it was so you can snitch!
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10461 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:52 am to
Although I disagree that this has anything to do with leftist politics, I do agree with you that there is nothing wrong with someone of means trying to give a helping hand to create opportunities for those who might not otherwise have them. I'm all on board with that from a moral standpoint.


The other poster keeps suggesting that Parkview would NEVER do anything to try and gain a competitive advantage in sports, which is laughable. All the big schools do it.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:56 am to
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ly still at Uhigh?
Although I disagree that this has anything to do with leftist politics, I do agree with you that there is nothing wrong with someone of means trying to give a helping hand to create opportunities for those who might not otherwise have them. I'm all on board with that from a moral standpoint.


The other poster keeps suggesting that Parkview would NEVER do anything to try and gain a competitive advantage in sports, which is laughable. All the big schools do it.



agree with the top part... but....

i stand by nobody at PBS offered discounted or free tuition.... or broke recruiting rules.. .some recruiting is legal...
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:59 am to
wildman.. actually... the last school to be sanctioned for recruiting was turned in.. by their own principal... and the one before that one too.


pretty much if you have over zealous folks supporting a school and doing dirty work - the LHSAA is powerless to catch or sanction them unless - it comes from the benefactor or someone with detailed knowledge -ie.. school admin.


btw.. met your boy a couple of times... great kid... class act.
Posted by Cousin
The Bayou
Member since Feb 2012
5292 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:13 am to
So about Adrian Ealy...........

Thread has gone ALL the way of course for too long.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 7:14 am
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:47 am to
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but who from PBS offered to pay tuition.... to chicken shite to name names......seems like you are the little girl throwing things out there with no facts....



What benefit does wildman have for being the whistle blower? He gets a school in trouble, and a kid in trouble. Why do that?

Also, do you know who wildman is? Because of all the parents in this area to be approached in some form or fashion, I do think the father of a 4 star and D1 recruit would know plenty of the slimmy moves people try to pull in the high school ranks haha
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29621 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:40 pm to
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some recruiting is legal...
this is categorically false. this is what caused the split.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:24 am to
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this is categorically false. this is what caused the split.




Talk about sour grapes! What part of providing a kid with a better surrounding and better academic environment for the hope for a better life is so wrong?!?! I work at a local middle school and see the obsticles they face in their every day lives because they're hanging out with their friends from the hood. The ones I can help get to a private school or a charter, you better believe I do because it means their chances of making in this world increase ten fold! It's the advocates of keeping these kids in the public system that are treating them like commodities rather than people!!!
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29621 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:53 am to
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What part of providing a kid with a better surrounding and better academic environment for the hope for a better life is so wrong?!?!

Then do the same thing for all kids in the same situation - not just athletes. If you can prove this is for all kids from all walks of life, then I'm good with that.
BTW - I went to a Catholic school for high school and my parents paid for my tuition even though I started 3 years in baseball - and yes - there were football players that got sponsors. My relatives did help sponsor a local kid that played football and ran track. He was also a 4.0 student. Great kid that is very successful. My contention is, he would have been just as successful at the public school which was not a bad school at all in Ascension parish. Additionally, he didn't even go to college on an athletic scholarship.
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:17 am to
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this is categorically false. this is what caused the split.


If you believe this is "categorically false", then you sir, don't know the rules. Public schools are just as guilty of "recruiting" as private schools. The list of illegal behavior extends just as deeply into the public school circle as the private school circle. Magnets, of course, don't have to "recruit" since they have no attendance zone and no tuition or other associated cost.

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Then do the same thing for all kids in the same situation - not just athletes.


People will help who they choose to help. There are dozens if not hundreds of private school scholarships that are awarded to academic, band, art and other skill sets that students possess. You just focus on the skill of athletics to try and make your baseless arguments stick.

If publics had greater success rates across the board and offered a better product the private schools could not succeed. Privates are a product of poor public school opportunities.

This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:31 am to
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Then do the same thing for all kids in the same situation - not just athletes. If you can prove this is for all kids from all walks of life, then I'm good with that. 

Ok, while we're at it let's buy every American a mansion and totally eliminate crime in America. Once again, if you're complaining about people giving kids an opportunity at a better life for whatever reason you're simply hatin'! And maybe in Ascension Parish you can give a kid as good of an education in a public school as a private, but considering the population at hand that's simply not the case on BR and NO. While you're at it why don't you go tell LF7 that it wrong he went to St Aug and that he never should've been allowed to go there under your perception of how the rules should be!
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29621 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:55 am to
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There are dozens if not hundreds of private school scholarships that are awarded to academic, band, art and other skill sets that students possess. You just focus on the skill of athletics to try and make your baseless arguments stick.


I'm going based on the Catholic school I attended. Private schools can do whatever they want as they receive zero help from the state. Where Catholic schools, in my day, got busing costs covered because of NO Catholic School League having to educate students because of a lack of available public schools. I really could care less about private schools because they are not part of LHSAA.
Why can't La be like here in Texas? PAY FOR YOUR SCHOOLS THROUGH PROPERTY AND SCHOOL TAXES AND GET RID OF STATE TAXES? The State is screwed up to say the least. AND set-up a separate parochial and private school association as it should be and not some hybrid crap they have. It's kinda like being 1/2 pregnant - either you are or not.

One reason of many why I left was because of wanting my kids to get a good education and more opportunities.

This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:08 am to
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Why can't La be like here in Texas? PAY FOR YOUR SCHOOLS THROUGH PROPERTY AND SCHOOL TAXES AND GET RID OF STATE TAXES? 

For 2 reasons: 1. Edwin Edwards created a homestead exemption in 1977 that eliminated a lot of property taxes 2. Because of the population we serve here and the fact that we'Re not not gonna send our kids to public schools here we'Re not anxious to pay money into a school system we don't use. Look, I agree with your sentiment that our school system is f-ed up, but it is what it is and we work with what we have. I am an assistant principal in the ebr school system and I pay a good bit of property tax, but in good conscience is forced to pay for my kid to go to private school. A lot of those poor kids don't have that option so regardless of how they get to go to those private or parochial schools I'm glad to see they now have a decent shot of being successful in life!
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29621 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:23 am to
First let me say -THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EDUCATOR! As the son of a teacher, I get it.

The interesting thing about your comment is every county in Texas has homestead exemption at a minimum of 25 for school taxes. With that said many have more than that including other exemptions for local property or city tax, plus after 65 you're locked in and will not have to pay more tax than you have.

You have to separate the 2 or choose to live in a place where this isn't an issue like in Lake Charles or Ascention parish where I grew up. I don't accept the issues are the students. It's a fundamental issue for paying for the teachers and holding them to a higher standard AND with enforcing the laws in place to protect the students so they can feel safe while at school.
Paying higher salaries for educators is a fundamental requirement. What's most important are our kids and educators have an important role in that. It's not just about the home environment.
As I mentioned, my mom was a teacher for 40 years and while I appreciated what she did, she only put forth the effort that was required. She always felt like her role as a mother was not to mother kids at school with few exceptions. She said on several occasions that she was ready to quit, but just thought that things would change as far as pay - it never did.
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4378 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:30 am to
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A lot of those poor kids don't have that option so regardless of how they get to go to those private or parochial schools I'm glad to see they now have a decent shot of being successful in life!


This should be worded differently. I have never been to a private school in my life and never once have I felt I didn't have a decent shot at life.
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