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re: Incoming Basketball Transfers

Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:51 pm to
There are zero McMahon lovers in this thread. There are fans of LSU basketball who hope we are successful regardless of the coach and want to be positive and there are miserable people who care more about seeing the coach fail than they do seeing the team win. Everybody knows he wins this season or he is gone and nobody is saying he has done a good job at this point. There are those mature enough to realize he is here for next season so we might as well be hopeful that more NIL will lead to better results and there are those who prefer to act like petulant children because the athletic director didn't do what they wanted them to do.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:56 pm to
You're awfully cute using words like "mature enough" and "petulant children".

You call folks "miserable" who call it like they see it. The facts are LSU basketball is at the bottom of the conference with no way out!

The program is light years behind the rest of the SEC. You can roll that in your pipe and smoke it however you wish. There is no denying the facts but please get back to your rant about being mature enough to sunshine pump this program.....
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3718 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3718 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:58 pm to
And you are awfully cute with your desire to stomp out any optimism or objective positivity because you think the coach sucks (he might). You want everybody to be as mad as you because you think it will change something, it won't. The coach is here for another year so might as well try to objectively look at he next year's prospects
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:16 pm to
Do you always use assumptions when conversating with people?

No one is "Mad". Stop with the nonsense. When a team has the worst three year skid in the history of the program then the fanbase has every right to complain. If you don't agree with that, then that's your problem, not anyone else's.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2667 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:20 pm to
Exactly OG. These people are miserable as they wake up every morning figuring out what crap they can say about Mcmahon every day. They are NOT Tiger fans. They will continue to bitch all year long but claim not to be "petulant". Mcmahon is here for this year. He is making some moves to try and improve the talent. They have added to the coaching staff. If he fails he will be fired. But to sit here every day and say they will suck no matter what is not what a true tiger fan does.
Posted by moldy_tiger
Member since Apr 2021
327 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:20 pm to
I don’t see why having the right to complain about the last 3 years should prevent you from having any objective optimism about next years roster
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:40 pm to
Optimism. That's like continuing to date a girl in high school that your friends tell you he saw with another dude on the backroads. You disengage and move on.....or you can continue to bury your head in the sand while the rest of the league laughs at you!! The choice is yours!!!!!
Posted by moldy_tiger
Member since Apr 2021
327 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:47 pm to
You’re definitely not upset and totally rational about this
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:58 pm to
I don't think you comprehend how bad LSU has been over the last 3 years.....

Your definition of Rational deserves an A for OUTSTANDING.

Continue to clap for a "Bag of Cash" and the McMonsters that that he is recruiting in the portal. OUTSTANDING with a capital O!
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:02 pm to
"LSU upped their NIL budget".................so did everybody else Beavis!!!!
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2667 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:05 pm to
Mad? LOL. The word is obsessed. You can complain during the season but to continue to complain during recruiting is a mental issue. Get a life. It is a fact that Mcmahon was not given the NIL $$ to compete with the rest of the league regardless of your opinion of his coaching. So now they've given him the resources to bring in better talent and bring in some additional coaches. If he gives the same results then he will be fired. You KNOW nothing about what next years team will do. Neither do I. So let it play out and let's see where it goes.This ain't football or baseball,
Posted by moldy_tiger
Member since Apr 2021
327 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:12 pm to
lol it’s the same exact people who were screaming “IT ONLY TAKES ONE YEAR TO TURN IT AROUND IN BASKETBALL” that are now saying it’s impossible for us to turn it around next year by using the portal
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:13 pm to
"giving him the resources" are you downright stupid?

The whole "he is getting more money to make him competitive" is the biggest media ploy in the history of media ploys.

Mascona and Palmer are both promoting this because the LSU administration is telling them to!!!

You know what?...........the LSU transfer class last year was ranked #12 in the country!!!!! You know what that got us???? 3 SEC victories. GTFOH with the media nonsense of LSU will now be able to compete in the SEC because they got "more support for NIL."

Texas Tech just showed a kid 8 million dollars! we are light years away from the rest of the league in terms of our coach and our ability to attract top tier talent!!! Cry me a f'n river about not having the funds!
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by moldy_tiger
Member since Apr 2021
327 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:32 pm to
So just so we’re clear: you think it’s possible to be in top part of this league without significant NIL financial backing? You think Nate Oats, Bruce Pearl, Cal, Barnes and Mark Pope are just scrapping by with funding? Are you aware what we are competing against?! This isn’t the SEC basketball of your heyday gramps.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15123 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Optimism. That's like continuing to date a girl in high school that your friends tell you he saw with another dude on the backroads. You disengage and move on.....or you can continue to bury your head in the sand while the rest of the league laughs at you!! The choice is yours!!!!!


Dang. Some of you have been looking to pick a fight with someone so long you can’t even see that these guys are simply trying to support some young men who will be wearing Tiger uniforms next season. I haven’t seen anyone on here who believes MM can get it done. But at the same time we sincerely hope these players can experience some sort of success. They’re representing LSU. It seems like some of you are hoping for losses just so you’ll be right. You’re already right man. Just let it play out and support the p&g.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6144 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:54 pm to
You have serious issues
Texas Tech may eat 8 Mil, if Toppin goes down with an injury.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
577 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:06 pm to
Basil you are a prick putting down any one who wants to be positive.Dicks like you give LSU real fans a bad name.Miserable fks like you just need a gun and a mirror ,just pull the trigger!!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32033 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

So just so we’re clear: you think it’s possible to be in top part of this league without significant NIL financial backing? You think Nate Oats, Bruce Pearl, Cal, Barnes and Mark Pope are just scrapping by with funding? Are you aware what we are competing against?! This isn’t the SEC basketball of your heyday gramps.


I think people are trying to view NIL in a structured, regulated manner, as if the way it works is the LSU AD, for three years, has given McMahon a set NIL budget from which to work. That LSU, the school, only gave McMahon $2M while Tennessee, the school, gave Barnes $6M. That's not the case. Neither school gave either HC anything.

A coach is only limited by the amount he can fundraise. There is no hard cap set by the schools. If a coach can convince wealthy people to give him authority offer a player a NIL deal worth $20M, so be it. Collectives have created a bit of structure. But again, there is no "cap" on those either. If LSU supporters, collectively, want to donate $75 million to the collective, they can.

That means if McMahon has had "no money" relative to the other SEC programs, then it is largely HIS fault because he hasn't been a good enough fundraiser. There is, and has been, literally nothing stopping him from raising millions for his program other than his ability or inability to convince people to give it to him...no different from any business that works to fundraise for their business.

When Wade got the LSU job the first thing he did was go all over the state meeting and speaking with various groups, civic associations and business. He wasn't doing that to get 6 kids in Lafayette to like LSU basketball or in hopes of convincing a wealthy business owner in Monroe to come to BR for a game or two. He was doing it to raise money for the program. Money he, of course, used to pay blue chip recruits....just like Roy Williams, Coach K, Bruce Pearl, etc, etc. That was his first order of business upon his arrival at McNeese. If you had money, wade would try to convince you to donate to the basketball program so he could pay players.

McMahon's problem has been the same as Trent Johnson's. Neither particularly liked the fundraising aspect of being a HC. So if they didn't have any money it was mostly their fault. I know a guy who works for one a company owned by one of the bigger LSU donors in the area. Wade went and spoke at the company multiple times when he was at LSU. Mulkey has done the same thing every year. Jay Johnson has, as has Brian Kelly. You know who hasn't? McMahon. He sent assistant coach recently. Hell, I don't even think McMahon has ever spoke at the BR Rotary Club...where every LSU HC generally speaks.

The narrative that poor old Matt has just been hamstrung by LSU not giving him any money is bullshite. He hasn't wanted to go out and shake the trees to get it. How do yall think Johnny Jones was able to sign blue chip players? It's because Johnny knew who the deep pockets were and went with Dale to get the money...just like they did in the 80's
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
887 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:15 pm to
do you think its possible in college athletics today to be purely a good coach, a motivator, an Xs and O's guy or will it always be incumbent on them to fundraise?

I agree McMahon doesn't have the energy and excitement of wade. I disagree that he is necessarily a poor actual on-court coach.

lets say he offloads all the fundraising to dupree and others. couldn't he be successful delegating the money nonsense to others? or is it a modern requirement that the job is largely a fundraising position.
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