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re: Final Rivals Louisiana Top 35
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:52 pm to Scandalous55
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:52 pm to Scandalous55
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:12 pm to lsufanva
If G-Rob insists on playing OT, I wouldn't have him in the Top 35 at all.
There's no way that he is a better OT than OBJ is as a WR, or Hilliard/Magee is as a RB, or Eugene is as a safety. Now with G-Rob as a guard, I might agree with your rankings.
I do know this, D. Williams despite being a 3 -star deserves that lofty perch by Scike. Williams is a spectaular WR. But Rivals has admitted they downgrade kids with academic issues which doesn't really make sense. They should just grade the talent and let the grades determine if they ever see the field or not.
Another thing is they are not consistent with the academic downgrading, especially if they are 5-star talents like Jerrell Powe. He should have been a 2-star talent actually if you are going to use that system, because he only played for 1.5 years due to his poor grades with minimal production.
There's no way that he is a better OT than OBJ is as a WR, or Hilliard/Magee is as a RB, or Eugene is as a safety. Now with G-Rob as a guard, I might agree with your rankings.
I do know this, D. Williams despite being a 3 -star deserves that lofty perch by Scike. Williams is a spectaular WR. But Rivals has admitted they downgrade kids with academic issues which doesn't really make sense. They should just grade the talent and let the grades determine if they ever see the field or not.
Another thing is they are not consistent with the academic downgrading, especially if they are 5-star talents like Jerrell Powe. He should have been a 2-star talent actually if you are going to use that system, because he only played for 1.5 years due to his poor grades with minimal production.
This post was edited on 1/26/11 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:56 pm to LSUFreek
How is Ryan Byrd only 6'1"? His neck has to add 5-6 inches on him
This post was edited on 1/26/11 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/26/11 at 2:12 pm to Brown Mountain
quote:I guess you can't read your own link. Rivals had Mathieu #5 but Tigerbait had him #1 for the post season state rankings.
he did have Tyrann Mathieu #5 last year when most had t. reed
Posted on 1/26/11 at 5:05 pm to XbengalTiger
LSUfreek, i can go along with your thoughts on Robinson.I actually feel the same in regards to the position he shoud play.My reason for where i have him is based on pure potential.The guy has the natural talent to be #1 on that list.He just isn't polished at all.he is getting by on pure natural gifts at this point.Much like all of the sites his ranking is based purely on his ceiling.I actually downgraded him some because it is only based on potential.If he were polished and as advanced as the other guys he'd seriously be pushing the top 3 on the list.He is that talented.I'm just not sure he will ever reach his potential.I love beckham and this was not meant as a slight to him it's more of a recognition of the talent that Robinson has.We must not forget that for the entire process(up until the last evaluation) Robinson was rated higher than Beckham on everybody's list.He still is on most.That talent didn't go away.He just isn't polished and has a lot of coaching to get.It's pretty subjective anyway.I'm just basing that on ceiling and talent.I personally would have Landry #1 if based purely on football skills and not taking potential into effect.He's easily the best football skilled player on the list,maybe in the country based on skills at a players particular position.Eugene would also be much higher.That kid is a football player more than anything else.I appreciate your critique. 
Posted on 1/26/11 at 5:53 pm to Scandalous55
Wow, Eugene isn't in Rivals' top 40 Postseason rankings, but Scike has him at 10. 7 three stars ahead of Mickey Johnson, 6 three stars ahead of Hunter. Yeah...he's catering to LSU fans.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:29 pm to Bayou Sam
quote:I liked the list....but damn there was some serious homerism involved in the rankings
Kids who committed elsewhere sure took a beating, no?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:34 pm to JJ27
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Wow, Eugene isn't in Rivals' top 40 Postseason rankings, but Scike has him at 10. 7 three stars ahead of Mickey Johnson, 6 three stars ahead of Hunter. Yeah...he's catering to LSU fans.
Or he could see these kids a ton more than Rivals just like our coaching staff. Rivals is national and I can't imagine they have as much research done. I like the rankings actually. Both GRob and Sylve have question marks. GRob can't play tackle. See Army game. Syvle can't run routes or catch very well. See UA game. Mickey allegedly has limited upside and Hunter who isnt committed to Lsu went up. His list last year was spot on: TM14 #1, TS26 #2, ER1 #4.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:37 pm to Ford Frenzy
one way to look at the list is to delete guys committed elsewhere and see how he ranks the LSU
commits. I assume he has a little inside help from his LSU sources so this is maybe a glimpse at what the coaches think.
commits. I assume he has a little inside help from his LSU sources so this is maybe a glimpse at what the coaches think.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:45 pm to Larry Hollins
No matter how you feel about the rankings: Rivals, Scout, Tigerbait; the bottom line is no matter the outlet you agree with, LSU is looking like they will sign 16 of the top 20 prospects in La. I will take that annually.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:50 pm to Koolaidkidiz
I don't think we are signing 16 of the top 20.
here are guys that I would include in the top 20
robinson, sylve, d. williams, raven, hunter, m. johnson. possibly prescott.
if hill doesn't enroll then we will be leaving a ton of talent on the table this year.
here are guys that I would include in the top 20
robinson, sylve, d. williams, raven, hunter, m. johnson. possibly prescott.
if hill doesn't enroll then we will be leaving a ton of talent on the table this year.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:21 pm to Koolaidkidiz
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Hunter who isnt committed to Lsu went up
Rivals has him at 15 in their postseason rankings, he's 18 on that list.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:30 pm to Larry Hollins
quote:
don't think we are signing 16 of the top 20.
here are guys that I would include in the top 20
robinson, sylve, d. williams, raven, hunter, m. johnson. possibly prescott.
raven? he has a total of two offers. ole miss and atm. that should tell you something.
d williams is a top 5 guy. no doubt. he's juco.
prescott may be top 20. i like him alot. lsu offered, just to late.
robinson is a top 20 guy, he doesn't appear to be a difference maker. lsu offered, recruited him hard. just didn't get him.
johnson and sylve? meh. you turn away landry or obj for sylve? nope.
johnson, i just don't know or have that great feeling about him. to say he is definitely top 15 is a stretch.
Posted on 1/27/11 at 9:27 am to dos crystal
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quote:
don't think we are signing 16 of the top 20.
here are guys that I would include in the top 20
robinson, sylve, d. williams, raven, hunter, m. johnson. possibly prescott.
raven? he has a total of two offers. ole miss and atm. that should tell you something.
d williams is a top 5 guy. no doubt. he's juco.
prescott may be top 20. i like him alot. lsu offered, just to late.
robinson is a top 20 guy, he doesn't appear to be a difference maker. lsu offered, recruited him hard. just didn't get him.
johnson and sylve? meh. you turn away landry or obj for sylve? nope.
johnson, i just don't know or have that great feeling about him. to say he is definitely top 15 is a stretch.
Thing is, you or I don't evaluate players and according to every updated list I look at, if we sign Rasco, we will sign 16 of 20, especially if you consider Juco guys or guys who didn't receive offers for whatever reason. Robinson, Sylve, and Mickey are the only no doubt top 20 players in the state that we are missing on. Williams, Prescott, Raven, and Hunter are debatable due to their inconsistent ratings from all of the sites; Rivals, Scout, ESPN, etc.. Regardless, Les is locking down Louisiana these last 2 years and this is a trend I like.
Posted on 1/27/11 at 9:33 am to Larry Hollins
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if hill doesn't enroll then we will be leaving a ton of talent on the table this year.
I disagreee with this statement. Do you really believe this? I look at it this way. Les brings a certain expectation to this program. While good prospects, Raven and Chuck Hunter haven't received offers from major programs for a reason. Williams doesn't have the grades and might end up at LSU after Juco. Mickey has limited upside according to the coaches. He's strong, but his hands are questionable. Robinson and Slyve are misses, but it is impossible to sign everyone. I firmly believe Les will sign and enroll 90% of the top talent this year, and 80% of the top 20. That is solid. What more do you want?? These are Midget like numbers...
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