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Dual Threat QBs Really Should Be Norm for Talent Rich Schools...
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:38 am
I know I will get a lot of hate but really think Urban was really ahead of the game on this. Btw, when i say dual threat I’m saying they can, if needed, make plays running the ball.
Schools like LSU, Bama, UF, OSU, Okla should always be somewhat talent rich in the trenches and at the skill positions. Pocket Passer QB always is the hardest position to evaluate how they will transition from HS to CFB. Just seems like to much of a gamble on a pass only QB with your program at state.
LSU has proven over the years that all they need was to be average at QB and they would have been much much more prevalent in the NC discussion (Hell Bama won a NC with a glorified RB playing QB).
I just think our staff is starting to realize we don’t need to hit a homerun at QB to win titles. We just need to have a high floor guy like Urban has been trotting out there for years.
LSU already seems to be trending to an offense (finally) that doesn’t put too much pressure on the QB to be successful.
Schools like LSU, Bama, UF, OSU, Okla should always be somewhat talent rich in the trenches and at the skill positions. Pocket Passer QB always is the hardest position to evaluate how they will transition from HS to CFB. Just seems like to much of a gamble on a pass only QB with your program at state.
LSU has proven over the years that all they need was to be average at QB and they would have been much much more prevalent in the NC discussion (Hell Bama won a NC with a glorified RB playing QB).
I just think our staff is starting to realize we don’t need to hit a homerun at QB to win titles. We just need to have a high floor guy like Urban has been trotting out there for years.
LSU already seems to be trending to an offense (finally) that doesn’t put too much pressure on the QB to be successful.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 10:41 am
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:41 am to STEVED00
I'll say it... it also helps Urban that he has 2, maybe 3, truly tough games a year.
Edit: up until the playoffs. Then we have seen what happens there.
Edit: up until the playoffs. Then we have seen what happens there.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:52 am to STEVED00
This isn’t new information, go look at our previous two championships...
Mauck
64% completion
2800 yds
28TD
14 INT
Flynn
56% completion
2400 yds
21 TDS
11 INT
Mauck
64% completion
2800 yds
28TD
14 INT
Flynn
56% completion
2400 yds
21 TDS
11 INT
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:01 am to PenguinPubes
I would rather someone that can consistently hit slants, outs, etc. If he is athletic too, great!
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:40 am to JRock99
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I would rather someone that can consistently hit slants, outs, etc. If he is athletic too, great!
This. Give me a guy that can get the ball out. There are always outliers but a true distributor with real talent around him seems to offer the most challenges because you have to be sound everywhere. At least against the elite teams. Look at how duel threat guys have done against LSU’s defense. Johnny Manziel and Lamar Jackson come to mind. When there is speed all over the field on defense, you need to get everyone on offense involved to keep them honest
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:47 am to PenguinPubes
So basically recruit QBs that are named Matt
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:54 am to STEVED00
There's some truth to this. I think it's more about getting guys who were effective in high school and not just had a lot of "potential". For example, did Brandon Harris ever even complete 55% of his passes in high school?
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:57 am to STEVED00
This is why you recruit RBs
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:58 am to SweetT
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So basically recruit QBs that are named Matt
Someone please tell me Peter Parrish’s middle name is Matt...
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:37 pm to FightinTiga
Look I’m just saying if you can’t call QB recruit to get a first down with his legs when needed then we should be recruiting someone else.
Not saying he has to be Lamar Jackson but Flynn, Etling, Mauck, Burrow, etc should be the minimum level of athleticism that we recruit.
Not saying he has to be Lamar Jackson but Flynn, Etling, Mauck, Burrow, etc should be the minimum level of athleticism that we recruit.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:45 pm to STEVED00
That’s fair,agreed
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:22 pm to STEVED00
A QBs reaction to pressure, with accuracy, while knowing how to read a defense is key. The reading of a defense can be taught and learned but the other two aren't nearly as easy to teach. Those two traits are mostly reactionary and they either have it or not. They can learn these things BUT that's where you're taking a much bigger risk and I wouldn't do that if I'm recruiting a QB.
He needs to have those two traits, while being somewhat athletic. Arm talent is a plus but not a must IMO. His reaction to pressure, accuracy with a decent arm and some athletic ability is what I would look for yearly.
I think you can find your QB every year if you aren't so damn picky and end up passing on the guy who has what it takes but isn't the sexy name or choice. Mental toughness is what I like most.
He needs to have those two traits, while being somewhat athletic. Arm talent is a plus but not a must IMO. His reaction to pressure, accuracy with a decent arm and some athletic ability is what I would look for yearly.
I think you can find your QB every year if you aren't so damn picky and end up passing on the guy who has what it takes but isn't the sexy name or choice. Mental toughness is what I like most.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:57 am to BayouBengal99
Accuracy is what I look for. Burrow has it.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:07 am to STEVED00
You have to have a QB that can move around a little and not be a statue.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:43 pm to STEVED00
Don't you think we need a guy that can get the ball to the great WRs we've had since OBJ?
Not a fan of dual threats. Look at Hurts. Just won't ever be a good passer. Eventually you need to hit one or two downfield.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:53 pm to madddoggydawg
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Not a fan of dual threats. Look at Hurts. Just won't ever be a good passer. Eventually you need to hit one or two downfield.
First of all I clarified my definition of dual threat is the ability to gain yardage on the ground when needed. Make defenses have to account for the QB gashing them for a big gain or at least scrambling for a drive extending 1st down is critical in today’s game.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:00 pm to SoloTiger
He also doesn't freak out under pressure and you can see that. I think Ohio State purposely let those defense's through to see how they react to it. If I'm LSU I would put in these types of situations with my QBs during games which are out of hand as well.
He can also read the defense in front of him. Isn't afraid to throw 1 on 1 either. I think LSU has been missing that for a while. A guy that will stick the ball in there when he see's a defenders momentum going one way or another and stick it where it will hurt the defense most.
Just because they look covered doesn't mean that they are. Know what your receivers are capable of doing and are good at, while also knowing the strengths/weakness of your opponent. He might be a 5* player BUT he's likely got a weakness. Man coverage, zone, coverage, jumping, catching, hips, feet, strength, quickness or awareness. There will be something that they don't do well.
As a QB you should know as many as those as possible and take full advantage. Dont just pick on one guy over and over. Show them that you know them all and how to attack them. This can hurt a team like Bama and give our team the confidence they need to beat up on them. You have to be talented but if you're both smart and talented then you'll beat anyone.
He can also read the defense in front of him. Isn't afraid to throw 1 on 1 either. I think LSU has been missing that for a while. A guy that will stick the ball in there when he see's a defenders momentum going one way or another and stick it where it will hurt the defense most.
Just because they look covered doesn't mean that they are. Know what your receivers are capable of doing and are good at, while also knowing the strengths/weakness of your opponent. He might be a 5* player BUT he's likely got a weakness. Man coverage, zone, coverage, jumping, catching, hips, feet, strength, quickness or awareness. There will be something that they don't do well.
As a QB you should know as many as those as possible and take full advantage. Dont just pick on one guy over and over. Show them that you know them all and how to attack them. This can hurt a team like Bama and give our team the confidence they need to beat up on them. You have to be talented but if you're both smart and talented then you'll beat anyone.
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