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re: Does being rated #1 by rivals really matter?
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:59 pm to Busta
Posted on 1/29/09 at 2:59 pm to Busta
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Texas' class may be basically done, and we're gonna finish quite strong (though Texas' class is great anyways).
Because Bama signs 50,000 recruits even when they don't have the numbers for it, manipulating the system
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 3:00 pm
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:29 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
Being #1 isn't really that important (imo), but the percentages bear out that teams with highly ranked recruiting classes pretty consistently do better than teams with lower ranked recruiting classes. It's obviously not a 1:1 correlation as there are exceptions in both directions. But when you see a team in the top 10 recruiting rankings for previous 3-5 years, you usually will see them in the top 10 of the polls at the end of the year.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:30 pm to King Joey
Only if you're short on t-shirts! 
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:33 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
I think it matters that a school is in the top 10 or 20. Being #1 vs. (say) #3 is pretty meaningless. It's all just Rival.com's (or whoever) opinion of how good these players will be at the next level and they can be just as wrong as anybody else. Somebody in another thread said that what really matters is how well a player fits into a given system or not (e.g., TR playing for Meyer). Same poster said that you really can't evaluate a recruiting class until most of those players have been playing a couple of years. Both points were dead on, imo.
Another thing is that I'd rather be #5 every year than #1 one year and #15 the next. We have had some consistently good classes under Miles so I don't really care whether Rivals ranks us #1 or #5 as long as we're somewhere near the top.
Another thing is that I'd rather be #5 every year than #1 one year and #15 the next. We have had some consistently good classes under Miles so I don't really care whether Rivals ranks us #1 or #5 as long as we're somewhere near the top.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:34 pm to Tigerbait337
quote:I was reading some recruiting article back in early '04 (after we beat Oklahoma for the Championship but before signing day) that made the observation that the boost to recruiting from a national championship usually shows up more in the following recruiting season because most of the recruiting for the current season is already done by the time the championship is won. So that would suggest that this recruiting class is more a reflection of our championship season of '07 rather than our disappointing season of '08.
Just the sheer thought that after such a below par season, we can grab the #1 recruiting class.
Of course, you don't have to have a championship to haul in a highly rated or even #1 class (we did it in '03 without any recent titles). But to the extent it helps, the effect is usually seen a year later (at least according to the article I read).
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:45 pm to King Joey
quote:
Does being rated #1 by rivals really matter?
It does to Bama. If you look on Scout and ESPN they are further down the list.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:48 pm to LSUTigerguy789
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Hell Yea it matters!!!
I want my damn T-shirt.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:49 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Hell Yea it matters!!!
Most are too proud to admit it
Posted on 1/29/09 at 4:06 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
It doesnt but it does.
Big time recruits look at who is #1 and it does have an affect on them unless they are just a stay at home kid anyway.
Big time recruits look at who is #1 and it does have an affect on them unless they are just a stay at home kid anyway.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 4:27 pm to MountainTiger
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I think it matters that a school is in the top 10 or 20. Being #1 vs. (say) #3 is pretty meaningless. It's all just Rival.com's (or whoever) opinion of how good these players will be at the next level and they can be just as wrong as anybody else. Somebody in another thread said that what really matters is how well a player fits into a given system or not (e.g., TR playing for Meyer). Same poster said that you really can't evaluate a recruiting class until most of those players have been playing a couple of years. Both points were dead on, imo.
Another thing is that I'd rather be #5 every year than #1 one year and #15 the next. We have had some consistently good classes under Miles so I don't really care whether Rivals ranks us #1 or #5 as long as we're somewhere near the top.
Well said. Good post.
Posted on 1/29/09 at 4:36 pm to bengalbabe4eva
I think it does these days. I agree that the #1 doesn't neccessarily mean much in comparison to #5 as far as how good a team will be in 2, 3, 4 years. However, high school players are well aware of these rankings, and probably take them into consideration when chosing a program to commit to. For example, if LSU ends up with the #1 rated class by one or more recruiting sites for 2009, and say Alabama ended up at #10, a blue chip prospect being heavily recruited by both programs for 2010 might think: "LSU will probably be better down the road." In a way, his thinking, statistically speaking, wouldn't exactly be wrong either.
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 1/29/09 at 4:40 pm to bengalbabe4eva
Whether this class is #1 or #5, take a step back to look at what kind of talent we"re getting:
Rueben Randle (hopefully)- Phenom receiver that will play on sundays.
Janzen Jackson- shutdown corner that has been regarded as better than Pat Peterson
Micheal Ford- One of the most underestimated RB's in the past several years.
Russell Sheppard- Could be our saving grace, and answers our QB question if JJ doesnt work out down the road.
Josh Downs- Without a doubt, the most underrated DL ive ever seen.
Regardless of what rank these players have, or how many stars they have, they could be one of the best LSU classes ever already without randle and others we are waiting on.
Rueben Randle (hopefully)- Phenom receiver that will play on sundays.
Janzen Jackson- shutdown corner that has been regarded as better than Pat Peterson
Micheal Ford- One of the most underestimated RB's in the past several years.
Russell Sheppard- Could be our saving grace, and answers our QB question if JJ doesnt work out down the road.
Josh Downs- Without a doubt, the most underrated DL ive ever seen.
Regardless of what rank these players have, or how many stars they have, they could be one of the best LSU classes ever already without randle and others we are waiting on.
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 1/29/09 at 5:16 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
It does matter. Of course there are exceptions, as in any predictive thing, especially when there are so many variables and when you are dealing with 17 year kids. Then throw in variable levels of competition aced, styles of offense/defense employed and/or faced, hype, exposure and other factors, and there will be some 5 star busts and some no-stars that become major stars.
But by and large, the recruiting services are on the mark and the rivals.com type of ratings is a meaningful measure and indicator of performance at the FBS level.
Don't point to the exception to make a point, as that is not a meaningful way of assessing predictive-oriented subject matter.
But by and large, the recruiting services are on the mark and the rivals.com type of ratings is a meaningful measure and indicator of performance at the FBS level.
Don't point to the exception to make a point, as that is not a meaningful way of assessing predictive-oriented subject matter.
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