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re: D’Eriq King is now following LSU twitter account
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
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Ifr you think Burrow was throwing to wide open receivers all these games all game long
Never did I say it was all game long but it happened plenty in every single game. King wasn't throwing to wide open receiver's at Houston in every game either. I've seen him throw plenty pretty balls on film. Have you watched his film? You are just a straight hater because there was some mutual interest there between the two parties and you want Brennan so badly to be the guy
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:01 pm to RATeamWannabe
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guess i missed that one then
You obviously did because we had 500 yds of offense in that game
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:21 pm to Lester Earl
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King would likely take off running, which I don’t hate.
Don’t compare him to burrow though. Is he a better option than Brennan, who’s looked lost in his brief snaps?
Honestly I think King would be worth 1.5 to 2 Wins more than Brennan next year
We're going 15.5/16 - 0 next year
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:22 pm to Howyouluhdat
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King wasn't throwing to wide open receiver's at Houston in every game either.
He also wasn't making difficult throws most of the time.
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've seen him throw plenty pretty balls on film. Have you watched his film?
Yes I've watched him play multitudes of times. The guy is a great athlete playing QB, he's not a multi-read QB, he's not a guy who can fits balls into tight spaces accurately very often.
He's a better athlete than most guys on the field he plays against and plays with a good bit of talent as well compared to his competition. He is not a tear you up you kind of QB through the air, he just isn't. His highlight reels are full of things that are less and less likely to happen here than they are against UConn and USF. He's throwing to a lot of wide open guys. He's running against teams who dont have near the defensive talent teams in the SEC would. What works against UConn, USF, SMU and ECU wont necessarily work for him against Auburn, Bama, Floirda, etc...
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You are just a straight hater because there was some mutual interest there between the two parties
Vol straight up in this thread said he wants us way more than we want him, not sure how else someone in the know has to bluntly put it to some of you. The guy is not a guy that fits our offense very well, bottom line. That's why we aren't after pursuing him. We also have heard over and over the coaches say they believe in Brennan and believe he is next in line, nothing to really believe they are out there trying to get another QB right now on the transfer market, so not sure why people think it's going to happen. Sure maybe something changes and another QB we really want gets on the market, but right now seems like we arent pursing anyone out there, about to sign 2 QBs this class, and if we sign 25 guys, we will have no room for any transfer anyways.
The fact some people think King would do better in this offense coming in the summer/fall next year than a guy groomed for it and been here going on 4 years next year with knowledge of the offense and chemistry with receivers shows how nuts some of our fans really are IMO. It's almost like people forget even Burrow had quite the adjustment period here coming in summer of '18.
I would consider King a CEH replacement before a Burrow replacement, he would do very good in that role IMO if he can catch at all. No NFL team is going to be looking at King as an NFL prospect at QB.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:25 pm to J2thaROC
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Honestly I think King would be worth 1.5 to 2 Wins more than Brennan next year
ummmm yeah that 1-3 record as starter, WE KNOW "KING's" THE MAN!!!!!!
Also,
how do you get 1/2 win in college?
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:36 pm to thunderbird1100
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The guy is a great athlete playing QB, he's not a multi-read QB, he's not a guy who can fits balls into tight spaces accurately very often.
You are saying this as if 90% of college QB's are like this. You are describing 1st round draft picks as if they fall off trees. How many multi read QB's are out there right now and are successful? Not many. Brady could easily craft an offense for a QB like King. It's not that hard under a spread concept. Good OC's adapt to who they have under center. Why would Tom Herman recruit a pocket guy like Joe Burrow and then JT Barrett who ran a total of 350 times in his last two years?
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Vol straight up in this thread said he wants us way more than we want him, not sure how else someone in the know has to bluntly put it to some of you
That may be true but stop discounting the kids ability under center because he's fricking good.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:14 pm to Howyouluhdat
Plus it is not smart to make a statement like that.And not want to add a QB that can extend the play so that our wr's can get open.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:25 pm to smash williams
I'll say this about the situation... We go through Spring and Brennan isn't quite what they are hoping rolling with ones and this situation gets a lot more interesting going into the Summer when we can take someone. But right now all signs point to Brennan being the guy. So for King, I think this is best to keep at arms length for the time being, and we will revisit once Spring ball is here.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:38 pm to VolTiger13
yup I just wished we got to see more of myles this year but prob best that we're not the ones judging his talent
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:40 pm to Howyouluhdat
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You are saying this as if 90% of college QB's are like this.
I'm saying knowing we have a QB on the roster right now with a big strong accurate arm that fits the offense much better.
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How many multi read QB's are out there right now and are successful?
He just didn't have to run the ball much this year because he pretty much didnt have to except in situations where he was flushed out and got a lane.
Who do you think has a better chance to be able to do that in our offense next year, the guy who has been here 3+ years, has chemistry with the players and probably knows Brady's offense inside out...or a guy who shows up a few months before the start of the season who has never really shown that ability?
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Brady could easily craft an offense for a QB like King.
Or he could just stick with the guy who they feel can put up big numbers in the offense throwing the ball already.
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Why would Tom Herman recruit a pocket guy like Joe Burrow
You realize he was a dual threat QB recruit and plenty of times here ran the ball, right? Recruiting profile page
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That may be true but stop discounting the kids ability under center because he's fricking good.
He's good against nobodies on a better team than most of them. It's not hard to look good when you rarely get challenged or have to make tough plays. He's a great athlete at QB, like I said. Not a guy who will rip your defense to shreds through the air if you provide much resistance. The guy has a highlight reel of runs, going out the pocket throwing to wide open guys, etc...these are against bad P5 teams, Rice, UConn, USF, etc...These are not things that necessarily translates to when you're throwing against NFL caliber DBs, NFL caliber DL chasing after you, etc.
I'm capable looking beyond a few face value stats. Colt Brennan was one of the most prolific passers in CFB history but if you put him against a good SEC defense he would melt (and he did, against UGA in a bowl game). IT's not about just looking at some stats, but watching the tape, understanding how they play, etc. I've seen King plenty of times and came away with seeing he's a very good athlete playing QB and can look very good against lesser opponents. Each time he's gone up against any decent defense, he's struggled to throw the football.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:50 pm to thunderbird1100
Defending a thesis statement?
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:12 pm to KC_LSUFAN
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ummmm yeah that 1-3 record as starter, WE KNOW "KING's" THE MAN!!!!!!
Also,
how do you get 1/2 win in college?
LSU fans are so goddamn football illiterate
Thanks for the laugh
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:35 pm to VolTiger13
Could Brennan then transfer? This is playing with fire. We’ve got a two year starter sitting in front of us.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:46 pm to VolTiger13
Yeah, really tough decision for Coach O and the staff. It seems like you almost have to keep that option open but that also means turning down elite level talent and not signing a full 25.
If Brennan looks great in the limited playing time he received this isn’t even a discussion, even that TD pass he threw against Tamu was sketchy.
If Brennan looks great in the limited playing time he received this isn’t even a discussion, even that TD pass he threw against Tamu was sketchy.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:59 pm to smash williams
Brennan has showed absolutely nothing in the playing time he’s gotten. And not just throwing the ball. His awareness & body language weee suboptimal
Maybe he is a dawg in practice but I don’t understand where the confidence comes from
This is a new era of LSU football where they are now able to draw from the best. King has the skill set to step in right away and have the best offense in the sec again, no questions asked
Maybe he is a dawg in practice but I don’t understand where the confidence comes from
This is a new era of LSU football where they are now able to draw from the best. King has the skill set to step in right away and have the best offense in the sec again, no questions asked
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:37 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm saying knowing we have a QB on the roster right now with a big strong accurate arm that fits the offense much better.
That means jack shite when your uncomfortable in the pocket. And he’s not that accurate lol
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the guy who has been here 3+ years,
And our staff has continually looked for transfers since he’s stepped foot on campus. A little odd.
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probably knows Brady's offense inside out...or a guy who shows up a few months before the start of the season who has never really shown that ability?
If you are already familiar with a basic spread concept it’s not as difficult to pickup. King would have no problem.
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Or he could just stick with the guy who they feel can put up big numbers in the offense throwing the ball already.
Nobody truly feels that way
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You realize he was a dual threat QB recruit and plenty of times here ran the ball, right?
He may have been categorized as one because he ran the ball a little bit more in high school then the average white guy but let’s be honest, He wasn’t going to run the same offense as JT Barrett and Braxton Miller. Burrow has very few actual designed runs in this offense at LSU. He runs when he has nowhere to go with the ball.
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He's good against nobodies on a better team than most of them. It's not hard to look good when you rarely get challenged or have to make tough plays. He's a great athlete at QB, like I said. Not a guy who will rip your defense to shreds through the air if you provide much resistance.
What you are failing to realize is he will still be on a better team than everybody with NFL caliber receivers to throw to.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:53 pm to Howyouluhdat
That dudes not coming here. Give it rest and cry next year if you feel the need
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:56 pm to Howyouluhdat
Dude isn’t going to be at LSU next year. Get over it
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:14 pm to deaux
We’ll see. Brennan isn’t the answer though
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