re: D’Eriq King is now following LSU twitter account

bullshite.

Ha ha, but all of that to say, I don’t take a position on signing King ...I leave that to the coach’s sound discretion. I will say, I don’t see how they could sign him now and promise him the starting job. He’d have to compete for it. Lots of considerations and as has been said does it make sense to potentially run off a QB that you presumably believe will be your starter the next 2 yrs, for a 1-yr player?

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That means jack shite when your uncomfortable in the pocket. And he’s not that accurate lol

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Was a nearly 70% passer in high school, this stuff usually translates.

Some of you going on garbage time at the end of games when they're barely running anything is just dumb.

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And our staff has continually looked for transfers since he’s stepped foot on campus. A little odd.

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Really, when did we look for a transfer coming into this season at QB? One to sit out this season and maybe compete next season? We didn't. We currently aren't looking for one either right now. So sounds like a narrative made up by you.

They were not comfortable going into Brennan's redshirt freshman season which I fully agree with, he needed more time, he was still a 180 pound bean pole back then, and didn't fit that offense really either. You'r esimply making things up right now to suit your argument. No transfer was looked at last year and currently there have been no signs we are looking for one right now.

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If you are already familiar with a basic spread concept it’s not as difficult to pickup. King would have no problem.

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Oh yeah King would just come right on in and in a couple months build up a ton of chemistry and easily squeeze right into this offense. Or wait, maybe he'd be just like Burrow and struggle early on like you would expect a guy who couldn't really work with anyone or run the offense before fall practice. Seriously, did you even WATCH last season? It took a guy who won the heisman this year months in the season to really get any sort of comfort level by coming in late.

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Nobody truly feels that way

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Maybe you dont, Brennan did this exact thing back in high school in a very similar spread passing attack, it's nothing new to him. You dont speak for everyone or close to it.

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He may have been categorized as one because he ran the ball a little bit more in high school

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He had 1500 yards rushing his last 2 seasons in high school.

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Burrow has very few actual designed runs in this offense at LSU

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Because he's literally tearing everyone apart through the air, there's no reason to run him and pretty much only time he does is when he's flushed out the pocket or we call a draw play. There's n oreason to risk your QB when he's throwing up 300+ yards a game through the air effortlessly. Bottom line thought you were flat out wrong about him just being some immobile pocket guy.

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What you are failing to realize is he will still be on a better team than everybody with NFL caliber receivers to throw to.

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He's not playing against garbage defenses any more. Do you realize he didn't play ONE defense ranked in the top HALF of scoring defenses last season? 11 games against BAD defenses. Not a single one was decent.

2018 Houston opponent scoring D rank
Rice - #112
Arizona - #98
Texas Tech - #86
Texas Southern - crap FCS team
Tulsa - #80
East Carolina - #120
Navy - #103
USF - #95
SMU - #110
Temple - #66
Tulane - #73

Go back to 2017 in Houston's bowl game and King actually played a good defense, who was that? Fresno State, ranked #10 in scoring defense that season, what did King do that game?

23 for 43, 53.5%, 269 yards, 6.3 ypa, 1 TD, 1 INT, 109.07 NCAA passer rating; 9 carries for 38 yards, 4.2ypc....that's bad

I'm not at all against a transfer QB if it's the RIGHT one, King is not the right one. He's never shown the ability to actually throw the ball well against a good defense. We need that in this offense. It should be plainly obvious you need to be able to consistently throw the football at a high level to have great success these days.

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No it doesn't.

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We've talked about it ad nauseam on this board, did you miss every single time? Take every top end QB you see and go back and look at their high school stats, the guys completing a lot of passes now correlates HIGHLY to what they did in high school too.

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Every D1 prospect puts up stupid high school numbers.

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Have you even been on this board the last year with the constant complaining about Finley and Johnson's numbers?

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You keep going back to High school because that's the only argument you have which is weak as hell.

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Well considering he's yet to start a game in college what else is there, oh wait, those 2 passes he throws at the end of blowouts, lets go on that instead!

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Every year he's been here we've had one and it's still not too late to take a grad transfer.

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Umm, wrong. We did not take a transfer QB coming into this season, nor were looking for one. We also ar enot reportedly looking for one right now either. You just made that up because you're in love with King yet there has been no mutual interest shown so far.

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Bottom line is next year will be his 4th year in college ball and you are praising the kids high school stat line to prove your point.

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Because he hasn't started a game yet numbnuts. How many games did Joe Burrow start before his 4th year in college? Oh, zero? What else was there to go on with him, garbage time at ohio state that means nothing?

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You act like this never happens. Two Heisman candidates just did it this year.

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You mean two top notch guys with a ton of talent who played at SEC schools prior and went to offenses that suited them perfectly? Pardon (anyone) for thinking guys who have shown something or were a 5-star translate well in an offense designed for them vs. a 5'9 guy from Houston who has shown no ability to throw against a decent defense might not look so great in, drum roll please, an offense designed to pass the football and make tough throws. This is a stupid comparison by you.

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You realize we run a new offense then we did last year right?

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Yeah and he had all offseason (Spring) to prepare in it with his guys he passed with all the prior season. King would be coming in just like Burrow did last year, and that offense certainly wasn't suited well for Burrow, but sometimes it just takes time. Burrow got a lot better later in the year. Other times you can put a very talented guy (Hurts, Fields, Cam Newton) in the right system exactly for them and it wont matter. King is not like those guys.

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It was 1200 and he averaged 5 YPC.

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1,425 yards rushing over 2 years Again you were just flat out WRONG here.

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There's plenty of reason to run a true duel threat guy if that's what he is.

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Again, would be mind boggling stupid to run a guy who is tearing every single team apart through the air, this is why Joe had way less designed run plays this year than last. He scrambled probably more this year, but most of those are not harmful because he's normally not taking any hits.

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He's putting up 300+ yds passing because he's a true POCKET PASSER that happens to have more mobility than the average guy. He's not a true duel threat.

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HE's putting it up because he's an accurate passer, has nothing to do with his running ability or not. Again, the kid ran for almsot 1500 yards in 2 seasons back in high school, we've seen him run the last 2 years and he's more than capable. You dont have to be Cam Newton to be considered a dual-threat. For some reason people have this dumb notion you have to be a 1000 yard rusher to be dual threat and suck at passing usually. Burrow is dual-threat, he's shown that, doesnt mean he's Nick Marshall running the ball, but he's also not Zach Mettenberger who is a 100% a true pocket guy.

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And he shredded those bad defenses on a largely non-talented team

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This shows how absolutely little you know. Houston was the most talented team in the AAC last year, they had a friggin 5-star (they got out of high school) on the roster Houston #1 in AAC talent in 2018

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King would generate more offense than Brennan would I could promise you that.

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You dont know any of that and are just blindly guessing.

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LSU's offense would move at a better rate with a better athlete at QB.

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Not one who cant throw it at all against good defenses, which again, King has shown he CANNOT do so far in his 2-2.5 seasons at Houston. When you become 1 dimensional in the SEC, good luck, you become easy to defend.

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ust from a pure statistical standpoint King has proved he is a more accurate overall passer than Brennan.

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What? Are you seriously comparing garbage time numbers against a guy who has started for like 2 full seasons about?

The late great southern comic, Jerry Clower, had a joke where he described the Ohio State/Michigan game akin to watching two jackasses fighting over a turnip. Funny, but didn't really agree with the premise. But this thread though...

That's real message is clearly evident.

Your probably one of the dudes that's said Lamar Jackson will be a great quarterback. You spouting a outdated narrative. Good quarterback play happens in more than one way. Get over your personal preference. Whoever is starting QB will have to earn it!

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I know you aren’t this stupid man.

You are lacking projectibility and foresight here BIG time man.

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Not sure what you're trying to get at but YOU NEED to pass the football to succeed, King has NOT shown that ability against a good to decent defense, ever. He could have used his legs all he wanted against Fresno State back in 2017 to open up whatever passes you think he could, but he didn't, he had a bad game.

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You are not accounting for how his running ability will create optimal passing situations while throwing to SUPERSTAR wide receivers & future nfl RBs. Not a two star WR from McAllen, TX who will never sniff the league like he had in Houston. Go watch his tape. Don’t look at the numbers

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His running ability didnt help him set up any kind of successful passing game against OKlahoma this year, or Fresno State back in 2017. These are the best defenses he's played against. Houston has better talent than almost every team they typically play sans a few power 5 teams they play and maybe UCF this year.

Talent also scales on BOTH sides of the ball, he gets better everyone else coming here to LSU on offense but he's also playing MUCH better defensive players. If he cant do well against Oklahoma or Fresno State how will he do against Auburn, Florida, alabama, etc?

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Better yet go look at Lamar Jackson’s passing numbers in college, and see how average they were.

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Average is not the right word there. He was well above average passing the ball. About a 150-ish passer rating his final 2 seasons. Combine that with ELECTRIC ability (Way way above King's) on the ground, made for a great QB. Comparing King to him is dumb though, he's not near the passer Lamar was and not even close to the runner either.

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Go look at Tebow and cam newton too and see how running ability at this position wins games and creates openings in the passing game. You don’t have to complete 78% of your passes or even 68%.

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You need to stop trying to act like King is even remotely in the league of these guys. you cant provide examples of some of the best players EVER and then throw in King as a comparison point who couldn't even do well against Fresno State when given somewhat a challenge defensively.

If King cant do well against defenses with a pulse at Houston, he wont do well against very good defenses routinely while here. Bottom line. He is not Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton or Tim Tebow. I can see some folks just have delusions of grandeur trying to make comparison points to some of the best dual threat QBs to ever play in CFB.

Why are you acting like King was terrible in those two games?

If Brennan shows improvement in the spring, I don't think they sign King. If he doesn't, I could see it.

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Loyalty means nothing"

Not a way to run a program.

In my humble opinion.

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You play the best players, you don’t play who’s been there longer. You’re too used to Les miles it seems.