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re: Deep Dive into perception of Bama stealing LA recruits

Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by GT3324
Northshore
Member since Jul 2015
468 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:59 pm to
All 5 from 2017 were big losses. Moses, Smith and Biggs all starters on the team that beat the balls off of us saturdday night.
Irv Smith...huge miss, our TE been none existent.
Cam Robinson, Tim Williams and Landon Collins all huge misses.
That's 9 bonafide starters over a 6 year period.
The depth you lose is what can't be measured.
But if your list makes you feel better...go with it.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71483 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:16 pm to
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2013) Tim Williams OLB/DE – Decent Loss here. He became a better player than his recruiting ranking, it happens.

He was a top 100 player as a recruit and top 3 player in the state according to 247, not some under the radar guy who exceeded expectations.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1454 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:28 pm to
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He was a top 100 player as a recruit and top 3 player in the state according to 247, not some under the radar guy who exceeded expectations.

You may be right. I just don’t remember us being on him super hard at the time. Maybe he didn’t fit our 4-3 scheme at the time, I don’t remember.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16814 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:35 pm to
I remember the rant saying he had an offer but he told coaches he was leaving the state and Miles left him alone
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53768 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:35 pm to
Eddie Lacy was a stud, Bama got him qualified

LSU didn't offer because his grades were that bad

please discuss these issues

what about the 5 for 5 year

Bama destroyed us that year, we darn near lost LF too
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1750 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:20 pm to
Excellent post! Hands down I love the work and research you did and very good point made. Only thing is that LSU told Hootie to take a hike and went after Jamal’s adams. Excellent work here!!
Posted by CTtiger30
Sydney, Australia
Member since Dec 2013
332 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:28 pm to
I figure on the bright side with all these LA guys bama is just east Louisiana football team
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8707 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:28 pm to
IMO, you can add DJ Fluker to the list. Grew up in NOLA and was a huge LSU fan. Evacuated to Mobile, AL during Katrina where he finished HS. Fluker was the #1 OT HS recruit in 2009, an All-American at ALA, and a 1st rd draft pick. - 11th overall pick.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5707 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:34 pm to
Hootie would not have lasted long at LSU. He liked to smoke weed an the LSU administration along with Bo Bahansen would not have allowed it. It’s a proven fact that BAMA doesn’t care. Savion Smith come to mind. FWIW I hate BAMA as much as the next person but I agree with Saban’s philosophy on the weed part. It would not matter if the BAMA administration didn’t like his stance on this. Saban runs every aspect of the University of Alabama from his office. Including the academic side of the university
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:36 pm to
You aren’t wrong. Although I do feel like the staff should have recruited a lot more of these guys heavier than we did. Probably could have kept a few of them.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10545 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:38 pm to
Just wait til Sophser commits to Bama...we all know it’s happening
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5441 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:44 pm to
LSU seems to be a step late with some of these local guys lately, it's well documented they missed on all the 2019 U high kids for whatever reason....right now there is Chris Hilton a 2021 wr from Zachary with offers from fl, a&m and AL but not LSU it seems like we should be the first offer.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1454 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:12 pm to
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what about the 5 for 5 year Bama destroyed us that year, we darn near lost LF too

5 for 5 was 2014. That was the Cam Robinson year. Willis went to Florida, Brown (out of state) went to Bama, and Speedy went to A&M. The only instate recruit that was a big lost that year was Cam Robinson.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1454 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:14 pm to
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Just wait til Sophser commits to Bama
I’ll reserve judgement on that. We may still get him, no one really knows.
Posted by Tmlb41
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
23 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:24 pm to
I talk to big Phil daddy a couple weeks ago, and he said if LSU would of offered him when they came and got Lawerence, big Phil would of been at LSU. They waited too late to offer him.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1454 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:10 pm to
2017 was probably the worst year for losing in-state recruits to Alabama, but it is noteworthy to mention this was a coaching changes year. Understandable losing a few in a transition year.

I think I was just trying to dispel the notion that Alabama comes to Louisiana every year and pillages and takes whomever it wants. This perception is not true. They get a couple here and there that we can’t replace. On average about 1 every other year becoming more frequent in recent years.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

it's well documented they missed on all the 2019 U high kids for whatever reason

This has been well documented?

Also, can we wait and see how these kids do in college before we say it was a mistake not to recruit them?

quote:

LSU seems to be a step late with some of these local guys lately

Let me ask you what's worse? Making sure a local guy is definitely a take before offering, or offering anyone and everyone early and then pushing guys out of the class later if they don't end up developing?
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:44 pm to
Did Mathis get one snap against us? He could be getting quality PT for us. What a waste.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39848 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:12 pm to
Duvall is an LB not WR and we absolutely wanted him. He was Bama from the get go do we did not push it.
Posted by Pickslimmons
Member since Nov 2015
414 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:23 pm to
Good post!
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