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re: Dante Moore plans to enter the portal

Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:34 am to
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:34 am to
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This is not my fight but I only see 1 cultist in this thread and it’s you by a mile


Thanks for proving my point. Please learn what words mean.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:35 am to
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How dare lsu fans support the second best QB in LSU history.


You toddlers can't help proving my point. It's honestly sad. Maybe worry about what I actually said not what you want to get offended by. You'd do better over on twitter I hear they like to make things up to cry about too.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12391 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:46 am to
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No, he isn't. It's amazing the shite some of you dipshits say. The only thing limiting the team would be taking a gamble on an unproven transfer just because you don't like Nuss. Thankfully BK isn't as dumb as you.



But he is. Line Moore, Nuss, Collins and Hurley up, they all look the best the could ever look, Moore would win easily. His physical gifts dwarf Nuss'. Quite honestly maybe even Underwoods. The kid is everything you could ask for as a modern qb in terms of tools. But so was Justin Fields and that hasn't shown itself with results.

Im neither here nor there about Moore. If we try I'm cool with it, if not I'm cool with that. Personally, I believe the time and effort we've spent putting ourselves into position to land Underwood should supercede any interest in Moore. Guess we will see if Kelly/Sloan really believe Underwood is the future. If he is you don't jeopardize landing him for Moore. I completely understand the other side though.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:53 am to
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The kid is everything you could ask for as a modern qb in terms of tools


"Modern" QB. Right.

It's weird you think them pursuing Moore or not is about Underwood.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14426 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:57 am to
Moore was a 5 star prospect that has starting experience and is willing to compete rather than expect to be handed the job. If he wants in, he's a take.

In the spring, Nuss gets 1st team reps initially and then Moore gets his chance. Maybe a 60/40 balance. If Nuss wins the job, great. If Moore beats him out then you have to go with Moore. I'm saying this as someone who would love for Nuss to prove himself ready, but ultimately I want what's best for the team.

By the time Underwood gets here Moore would be a JR and he can compete or more likely redshirt and start in 26' with Moore declaring after his JR season. I don't think this would scare Underwood away.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9438 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:33 am to
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The reasons people might leave have nothing to do with fear of competition.

If this is true, then there’s no risk in bringing in a guy like Moore.
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Jayden didn't win shite. You can't claim Nuss sucks while also claiming he was sufficient competition kid. He was handed the job and you had no issue with it.

Oh I see. You’re one of those people.

Imagine still dying on the “rigged competition” hill immediately after a guy has this kind of season.

I like Nussmeier. I think he’ll probably be a good quarterback for us. But I have zero issue with the staff bringing someone in to make him prove it in spring camp. Yes, there’s a very good chance he transfers out after spring if he doesn’t win the starting job. But if Dante Moore (or whoever else) is better, so be it. Especially when you’re talking about another guy with several years of eligibility.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25948 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:38 am to
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You toddlers can't help proving my point. It's honestly sad. Maybe worry about what I actually said not what you want to get offended by. You'd do better over on twitter I hear they like to make things up to cry about too.


Would you upvote your own posts on there as well?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79168 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:43 am to
This has been an interesting thread to follow
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:29 am to
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Only person with a dick in their mouth is you. At least lick JDs as some too. Finger his butthole a little ****.


Yikes. Your hate for Jayden seems personal. I don’t get it with some of you. The guy is everything you want as a qb and rep of the university.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:29 am to
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If this is true, then there’s no risk in bringing in a guy like Moore.


There is if it's not a competition which it isn't.

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Oh I see. You’re one of those people


Which people? Maybe you dumb fricks should worry about what people actually say. Nah who am I kidding this place is full of idiots.

It's not a "rigged competition". What I said was if the guy thinks Nuss sucks then how was Nuss vs JD a "competition". How hard is that to comprehend for some of you dumb fricks? Based on his own stupid words this imbecile can't claim both Nuss sucks and that JD had "competition" for the starting job. Where was the calls for a transfer year 2 with JD? For "depth" or "competition"? They didn't exist. For some reason Nuss was fine when he was the backup, but now he sucks? Learn to read.

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But if Dante Moore (or whoever else) is better, so be it.


There's no way to know who is "better" which is the point. These idiots just have a predetermined conclusion based off on nothing except Nuss not being a "dual threat". Complete counts.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:32 am to
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Your hate for Jayden seems personal


Another one of these imbeciles. My hate isn't for JD it's for his fricking fanboys. Imagine being so insanely hypocritical as to blindly defend JD since before he even got to LSU. Then to turn around and beg for a transfer QB to replace Nuss.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
4374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:37 am to
Easy enough.
People recognize Moore’s potential to *Possibly* be much greater than Nuss’s.

Nuss has proven zero as a starter. competition brings out the better player.

We didn’t call for a transfer for JD because anyone with a brain could see we didn’t need one.

Nuss as a starter is unknown. Bringing in Moore certainly helps us cover ourselves just in case he doesn’t produce.


There’s your substance. I’m not sure you’re able to actually understand it though
Posted by SauceBawse
Member since Mar 2022
180 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:42 am to
All I have to say is this is a welcome change where we even have to discuss not offering a former 5*.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:44 am to
He’s going to Oregon so who fricking cares about this dude
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:47 am to
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People recognize Moore’s potential to *Possibly* be much greater than Nuss’s.


No, they "recognize" he's a "dual threat" or rather he's just not Nuss. This would be obvious if you bothered reading the threads calling for KJ Jefferson or Will Howard or multiple others.

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Nuss has proven zero as a starter. competition brings out the better player.


Nuss has never been the starter. Competition isn't real if you're promising someone the job or favoring anyone with experience. I doubt BK actually thinks like that, but if that was the criteria why would anyone ever start over a transfer?

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We didn’t call for a transfer for JD because anyone with a brain could see we didn’t need one.


So JD didn't "need" competition? That's a direct contradiction of literally every post here. Not to mention braindead because he wasn't great year 1. The reality is that Nuss was considered good enough then, but now isn't. Or at least to you clowns again I don't think BK has this mentality.

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Nuss as a starter is unknown. Bringing in Moore certainly helps us cover ourselves just in case he doesn’t produce.


Anyone who isn't a transfer is an unknown. Moore as a backup is fine, but if he's the starter that's not covering anything and your backup options are right back to Collins and Hurley.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9438 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:56 am to
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Which people? Maybe you dumb fricks should worry about what people actually say. Nah who am I kidding this place is full of idiots.

It's not a "rigged competition". What I said was if the guy thinks Nuss sucks then how was Nuss vs JD a "competition". How hard is that to comprehend for some of you dumb fricks?

Nice crawfish.

Your exact words:
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Jayden didn't win shite. You can't claim Nuss sucks while also claiming he was sufficient competition kid. He was handed the job and you had no issue with it.

It seems to me that you’re one of those people who think transfer quarterbacks with experience never have to compete for the job in camp. Personally, I think that’s an ignorant assumption by many folks (one that is often reinforced based by the individual’s opinion that the guy on the bench is better). There are certainly a lot of cases where a transfer is the obvious starter, but that doesn’t mean the coaches are giving them guarantees before even seeing them in camp.
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Where was the calls for a transfer year 2 with JD? For "depth" or "competition"?

In year 2 of JD we had 1) a returning starter and 2) an experienced backup (while Nuss hadn’t been a starter, he was absolutely experienced compared to most backup QBs). We have neither of those things going into 2024. I don’t think it’s that complicated.
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There's no way to know who is "better" which is the point.

There’s no way to know? Really?

You don’t think the coaches are capable of evaluating the QBs in spring camp?
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:05 am to
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Nice crawfish.

Your exact words:


Yes, my exact words. You read the part in between what you highlighted right? Did you want me to spell out "by your logic" when it's implied?

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It seems to me that you’re one of those people who think transfer quarterbacks with experience never have to compete for the job in camp


No, I'm saying that's the logic people are using to claim any transfer is superior. It's not logic at all. Every player is a risk even a "proven" transfer. Notwithstanding the impact on recruiting and maintaining younger players if you keep going the transfer route. I do believe if they brought in someone who is limited in eligibility they aren't coming here without guarantees. That applies more to other guys who were discussed not Moore.

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In year 2 of JD we had 1) a returning starter and 2) an experienced backup (while Nuss hadn’t been a starter, he was absolutely experienced compared to most backup QBs). We have neither of those things going into 2024. I don’t think it’s that complicated.


We have a presumptive starter and a backup at the same level Nuss was year 1 of JD. My point was if Nuss sucks so bad how was anyone comfortable going into year 2 with him as the backup and "competition" to push JD.

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There’s no way to know? Really?

You don’t think the coaches are capable of evaluating the QBs in spring camp?


Coaches can though they can also be wrong. I'm referring to people on this board. Honestly I think BK likes Nuss and has openly done multiple things to retain him. Splitting drives in last year's bowl, praising him before the Florida game, and putting him in a leadership role. I've said repeatedly Nuss will be the starter and some here will be upset by it which is sad.

A bigger concern which is probably what Shea was discussing would be pushing out Underwood if you bring in a guy who is the presumptive starter after Nuss. If you're going by recruiting rankings or supposed potential Howard was higher than Nuss right? Yet Nuss being here with JD returning pushed him out. Not because of competition just because it's too long of a wait.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
4374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:19 am to
Okay stupid, let’s try again.

I don’t even know what you mean by saying “he’s just not Nuss” nobody knows what Nuss is capable of as a starter. Most fans love Nuss’s arm, just worry about his gun slinger mentality leading to picks. Which can be corrected

Nobody is promised the job, even if Moore transfers in. He’s even said himself he’s looking for development.



JD’s competition was Nuss last year which is why we didn’t bring in a transfer last year. JD won against Nuss and rightfully so. This upcoming season, the only QB with any experience is Nuss. He has no competition to push him. That’s why there’s a want for a second QB to challenge nuss. Not saying he’d come in as the starter, just that we have a number 1 or 2 with experience. Injuries happen and I doubt Collins is ready yet.

You’re arguing against future possibilities that haven’t happened yet. To say Moore comes in as the starter is dumb. To say Nuss is guaranteed the job is dumb.

You make them compete and pick the one that gives your team the best chance to win.

I think Kelly has proven he knows what he’s doing with QBs. I trust his judgment. You should too. If he thinks Nuss is the best option, great! We will support him.

If a transfer comes in and wins the job, great! We will support him.

This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:31 am to
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what you mean by saying “he’s just not Nuss”


That some don't want Nuss for any reason, stupid.

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Nobody is promised the job


What if they announced KJ Jefferson was transferring with 1 year of eligibility left?

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You’re arguing against future possibilities that haven’t happened yet.


No, I'm arguing against other people's reasoning on this board.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
4374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:35 am to
What if Jefferson comes here?

The frick is this? No matter who comes in, IF anyone even comes in, will be in competition against Nuss.

If Nuss wins the competition, he’s our guy. If not, oh well he transfers.

I don’t think anyone is okay with just giving a guy the job just because he patiently waited. That’s not how a successful program is ran. If someone better than him is on the market you take him.
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