Coach Kelly’s Thoughts On LSU Recruiting!

We had to show that we were after them, for media purposes to satisfy the fans. But Kelly gets who he really wants. Gordon and crew can cut a check of any size when Kelly demands it.

That’s a lot of organizational structure jargon that a lot of baws don’t understand.
But they will once we are dominating.

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I agree about the culture change. That said, assuming this is about McKinley and Mack, we wanted both so he obviously thought they were "fits" for his culture. So do they fit if we land them and not fit if we don't? Seems like a no lose situation. But as we all know, that's not reality.
Year one with minimal expectations(lowest in nearly 2 decades), mission accomplished. Kelly gets that credit. Year two with heavy expectations(normal), TBD. Credit is on reserve. In '19 everyone was trumpeting O, from '07-1/9/12, Miles. Opinions are vastly different today. Kelly only has reputation at other places and lack of history at LSU on his side. LSU is a different level culturally and competitively.
I believe in his coaching and culture building ability. You have to recruit accordingly at the level we aspire to reach and that's in some question particularly when the state is the priority and you lost the top 2 to future opponents by whatever means tickles your fancy as an excuse. The only opinions on their abilities that matter are the coaching staff's. They battled for both. Bottom line is we lost the 2 highest priority recruits from our primary and highest priority source of talent. Don't see how that can rationally be spun as a positive result at this time.

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Not that I think it is the case, but even if the staff felt Mack and McKinley didn't feel were a culture fit, they still have to recruit them, for a number of reasons.

For one, they may mature in the next few years, and because we initially recruited them, the bridge to come back remains open.

For another, can you imagine what people like yourself would be saying if they didn't put any effort into recruiting them ?

I don't think Kelly is referring to anyone in particular. I think he is just trying to help people who have trouble understanding that so much goes into recruiting a player, as well as what goes into a recruit's decision making process.

We have to want them, they have to want to be here, and all parties have a plethora of reasoning that makes them feel the way they do.

The problem I have with the things that you in particular say, is that you continually promote this idea that we aren't recruiting at a high level. We are. The only rosters out there that from top to bottom that i'd rather have is Georgia and Alabama.

4 years from now, I doubt that will continue to be the case. What would make you happy, all 32 5 stars and nothing less ? I think you'd would have some kind of problem with that as well.

Rationality is lacking. Of course I would like to have players that we've missed out on. However, I wouldn't trade places with any program in America going forward. To hear you tell it, we are swirling the toilet bowl, when in truth we are building, and will continue to build. What more can you rationally ask for ?

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Florida isn't winning 6 games this year.

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The over/under is 5.5, I’ll take the under.

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So do they fit if we land them and not fit if we don't? Seems like a no lose situation. But as we all know, that's not reality.
Year one with minimal expectations(lowest in nearly 2 decades), mission accomplished. Kelly gets that credit. Year two with heavy expectations(normal), TBD. Credit is on reserve. In '19 everyone was trumpeting O, from '07-1/9/12, Miles. Opinions are vastly different today. Kelly only has reputation at other places and lack of history at LSU on his side. LSU is a different level culturally and competitively.
I believe in his coaching and culture building ability. You have to recruit accordingly at the level we aspire to reach and that's in some question particularly when the state is the priority and you lost the top 2 to future opponents

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You make two errors in this quote.

1. You imply that Kelly (or someone) is using “bad fit” to justify losing Mack and McKinley. He never said, nor implied, that.

2. You claim that Mack and McKinley are “the top 2”. You don’t know that, and I would bet a dime to a dollar they were not the top two.

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"And you've got to make sure you're not taking players just because they're from Louisiana. They still have to fit the mission that you have here."

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frick all that. He better recruit some dogs because this team is lacking them.

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. You imply that Kelly (or someone) is using “bad fit” to justify losing Mack and McKinley. He never said, nor implied, that.

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The OP did and that's wo I'm replying to. If he's not referencing Mack and McKinley then who? Just hypothetically?

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You claim that Mack and McKinley are “the top 2”. You don’t know that, and I would bet a dime to a dollar they were not the top two

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In my post in the last sentence I clearly typed the words "at this time". I pose this question to you, at this time, who are the top 2 recruits according to the rankings, which without we would know who none of these kids are?

Don't see any errors on my part.

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The problem I have with the things that you in particular say, is that you continually promote this idea that we aren't recruiting at a high level. We are. The only rosters out there that from top to bottom that i'd rather have is Georgia and Alabama.

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Are we recruiting at the level of UGA, Bama and OSU? Those are the 3 elite recruiting powers in the country. Recruiting at a high level and an elite level are different things. Acceptance of "high level" means acceptance of not being elite. Isn't elite our goal? The current class, on paper which is all we have at this point, isn't closing the gap only making it wider. I've never said our class isn't high level, it's top 10 and I'm not an idiot. I've said it isn't elite, isnt up to our standards, it doesn't seem very organized(we've always complained of lack of backup plans and it's still an issue), that tooting horns about loading up instate in a down year was a mistake and that the endless propaganda of positivity being spread regarding Mack and McKinley was based on nothing more than "trust the godfather" logic. Made even more egregious a mistake because it appears there was no contingency plan and the appearance of scrambling is evident.

As for the rosters at UGA/Bama, that's just an opinion you have. I have mine. No harm no foul. However, you envy those rosters(as do i)and those rosters are littered with elite recruiting classes backed by the rankings that we now don't think matter.(Mack and McKinley suck unless they flip then they'll be good again)

If Mack flips i would guess it would be to FSU before LSU.