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Caleb Williams - Sports Illustrated Blog

Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by CantGuardJamarr
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:33 am
Apparently Caleb Williams will be blogging weekly on his recruiting experience and personal life, etc.

This entry briefly covers his experience with Oklahoma.

Sports Illustrated

You can tell Caleb his family are very methodical in their recruiting approach.
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:04 pm to
A kid from Florida did this with a local newspaper a few years ago and it turned into a shite show.
Posted by zoom
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:20 pm to
Oklahoma think they have him 100%
Posted by NattyTiger19
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:50 pm to
Yeah, he has definitely been trending towards Oklahoma the past few weeks. After his visit there later this week we will hear some feedback on how he liked it next week.

Nonetheless, if he goes to Oklahoma, he'll definitely have to sit awhile behind Spencer Rattler who will be just a redshirt freshmen this upcoming season.
Posted by CantGuardJamarr
Member since Jan 2020
215 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:21 pm to
not to mention they have Tanner Mordecai and just signed Chandler Morris. They already have a pretty good QB room, same as LSU, but LSU's timing works a bit better for our 2021 QB recruits
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Nonetheless, if he goes to Oklahoma, he'll definitely have to sit awhile behind Spencer Rattler who will be just a redshirt freshmen this upcoming season.



How many times does this need to be brought up before people realize that he'll be waiting to start for the same number of seasons at LSU and Oklahoma. Rattler will be 3 years and gone. It will be 1 season of waiting regardless of whether he chooses LSU or Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:36 pm to
3 years starting now?

Or will Rattler just need to play this year and next and then he's gone?

Rattler could leave as after his RS Soph season, is that what you are saying?

Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
I'm saying that CW will likely only need to back up Rattler for 1 year. The same amount of time he would presumably be a backup at LSU. Because this coming season will be Rattler's second college season, and CW's freshman year will be his third.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:52 pm to
Rattler will be a sophomore and Brennan will be a junior, so it's not the same. Williams will a freshman during Brennan's senior year and Rattler's junior year.

Predicting a QB to leave early before he's ever started a game is a bit silly.

Using the same logic, Brennan could go pro after next year and Williams could start here as a freshman.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:57 pm to
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Predicting a QB to leave early before he's ever started a game is a bit silly.



It's not silly when you're talking about the number 1 QB in his class playing for a coach in a system that produced back-to-back first-overall picks. A system that turned a game manager into the heisman runner up. To me, the most likely outcome is that Rattler goes pro as soon as he's eligible. In fact, I would be kind of shocked at any other outcome.

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Using the same logic, Brennan could go pro after next year and Williams could start here as a freshman.



You're right! But this is, in my opinion, not nearly as likely as Rattler leaving after his 3rd season.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Predicting a QB to leave early before he's ever started a game is a bit silly.


Rattler as a recruit was more talented than Baker and Kyler. It is absolutely a safe bet he will leave after 2021 and be a high draft pick.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Rattler as a recruit was more talented than Baker and Kyler. It is absolutely a safe bet he will leave after next season and be a high draft pick.



Totally agree with your sentiment, but he won't be eligible after this coming season. He's got 2 more years before he's eligible, but i fully expect that to be the extent of his OU career
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:28 pm to
The odds are extremely high that he will be a complete failure, or at least have some other set-back that will delay his success.

He may not. I wouldn't predict that level of success on anyone.

Go look at the top QBs over the last few years. It's a complete shite-show. By your logic, Shea Patterson (2016) and Deondre Francois (2015) should have been early-entry top picks the last two years.

They were the top-rated dual threats those years.

Then you have Kellen Mond (2017).

I wish Rattler nothing but the best, and he may be awesome. But the odds are against it.



Posted by NattyTiger19
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:33 pm to
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I'm saying that CW will likely only need to back up Rattler for 1 year. The same amount of time he would presumably be a backup at LSU


This isn't rocket science. At Oklahoma, Williams will have to be a backup for Spencer Rattler's redshirt sophomore season and his redshirt junior season.

At LSU, he'll only have to be a backup for Myles Brennan's one and done redshirt senior season. Which, the last time I checked my math, is only one year and one year less time as opposed to at Oklahoma.

Now, this is assuming that Rattler heads off to the NFL after his redshirt junior season and that Brennan stays at LSU for his redshirt senior season and that Williams does indeed win the starting job.

In fact, if Brennan has a spectacular redshirt junior season and becomes a highly sought after NFL prospect after this upcoming 2020 season, then Williams could actually possibly come in and compete for the starting job immediately in 2021.

Posted by geauxGreeks
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:47 pm to
The mythical Keion Joyner did this w USA Today
LINK
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:47 pm to
Since 2015 to 2017, since i was lazy and didn't feel like going that far back, I looked at top 3 QBs in the class and only 2 of the 9 went pro early (Rosen and Tua). So it's not a given he will go pro early also given the limited sample size he's produced (11 total passes in career).

Another thing to consider is how well Lincoln Riley actually develops these guys. No doubt Riley is a phenominal offensive coach. But all 3 being transfers played decently for their previous teams given they were either a freshman or a national championship winning qb. I'm not saying he won't go pro as soon as he can but to act like its a matter of fact is bit presumptuous.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:48 pm to
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This isn't rocket science. At Oklahoma, Williams will have to be a backup for Spencer Rattler's redshirt sophomore season and his redshirt junior season


Wrong. Rattler will be able to leave after his redshirt sophomore season. It is the same thing Jamesis Winston, Johnny Manziel, and others have done.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Since 2015 to 2017, since i was lazy and didn't feel like going that far back, I looked at top 3 QBs in the class and only 2 of the 9 went pro early (Rosen and Tua). So it's not a given he will go pro early also given the limited sample size he's produced (11 total passes in career).





Fair point.

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Another thing to consider is how well Lincoln Riley actually develops these guys. No doubt Riley is a phenominal offensive coach. But all 3 being transfers played decently for their previous teams given they were either a freshman or a national championship winning qb.



Kyler was average to bad in 2015. Again, Rattler is supposed to be more talented than all of them. You could see against us, he has an incredible release and a good arm. There's little reason to think he's not going to be fantastic.
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 2:55 pm to
He threw 3 passes and completed one of them. Incredible release and good arm don't mean too much if he's inaccurate or just doesn't read defenses, not saying he doesn't or won't learn to. My point is, its just to early to tell if he'll be a sure fire first round draft pick in 2 years or at all.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 3:00 pm to
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The odds are extremely high that he will be a complete failure



Lol the odds that Spencer rattler will be "a complete failure" are absolutely not "extremely high". If you think this is true, you are clueless. Do you think the odds of Myles Brennan being a complete failure are extremely high?
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 3:04 pm
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