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re: Best article I have seen so far on the Jackson situation

Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:18 pm to
My favorite part:

quote:

"He just wanted her blessing on it.’’


NICE.. Nothing like waiting for your mom to bless your LIE!
Posted by B C Tiger Fan
Where I Am.
Member since Jan 2007
48 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:18 pm to
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The NFL isn't college in terms of scheme and personnel.


Your right.....personnel are bigger, stronger, and faster.
Because of this NFL Schemes are more complicated

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
159146 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:19 pm to
the story has so many holes in it its laughable. If Monte were the deciding factor you would have made the jump weeks. If playing safety were the factor you would have gone to Bama

They got your dad a job at a school a short drive away and will probably bring him on in a few years when it looks slightly less shady. Congrats on your big "steal" UT.
Posted by JudgeBoyett
Mayor of LSWhoville
Member since Feb 2007
1801 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:21 pm to
Well, here's how he handled a Florida commit. I can only assume something similar happened with Jackson. To me, this is MUCH worse than accusing Meyer of cheating. To do it is one thing, to brag about it, however, is astonishing. From Chris Low's blog on ESPN:

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Kiffin also delighted in telling the crowd how the Vols, specifically assistant Eddie Gran, simply outmaneuvered the Gators in getting Richardson to leave the state of Florida. Tennessee's coaches told Richardson to keep telling everybody that he was still committed to Florida, which he had been since last May.

"You can't understand how hard this is to get done," Kiffin said. "Eddie had this set up at 7 o'clock in the morning. They (Richardson's aunts) got the papers signed by the kid. They didn't go do it at the school because they knew somebody at the school was going to screw it up. The fax machine wouldn't work, or they would have changed the signatures, all the things that go on in Pahokee (Fla.) now. The aunts took it over to a junior high, found a fax machine that worked and faxed them over to us at 7 o'clock, and I kept it in a drawer till their 1 o'clock press conference."

Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60838 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:21 pm to
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Because of this NFL Schemes are more complicated


And won't work in college because you don't have the players to run said schemes. The Tampa 2 leaves too many holes and the spread will demolish it.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:22 pm to
SPIN SPIN and more SPIN
Guidry and Jackson lied to (Miles)LSU. Had they not...possibly Myles goes to LSU or at least possibly the saftey that went to Spurrier.
I believe Kiffin fits in with the rest of the low life HC's in the SEC or at least (CUM,&$aban)
Coach Miles and I think Richt are the best character guys of the bunch.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:22 pm to
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If Monte were the deciding factor you would have made the jump weeks.

Not if Kiffin told him to wait so they'd screw LSU, AND pick up Darren Myles who was looking at LSU.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60838 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:23 pm to
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Not if Kiffin told him to wait so they'd screw LSU, AND pick up Darren Myles who was looking at LSU.


Did you watch the Kiffin video? That's exactly what he told New Keys Richardson to do. I'm sure he did the same with JJ so he could "Steal them" as Kiffin put it.
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:25 pm to
JJ went out of his way to lie and therefore screw over LSU. Pure and simple, you don't lie for a month to anyone. That is poor character. He admits he made a decision in advance on UT and he and his family flat out lied to LSU about it afterwards rather than do the right thing.

I can understand the mods wanting this board not to go overboard on any recruit, but if ever a recruit and his family deserved to be called out, it is now.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3336 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:31 pm to
keep in mind many of us were hoping Trent Richardson had lied to Bama when he was making his announcement yesturday. It sucks, but recruiting is a dirty game and UT seems to have brought in some pretty good slimeballs to recruit.
Posted by B C Tiger Fan
Where I Am.
Member since Jan 2007
48 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:35 pm to
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And won't work in college because you don't have the players to run said schemes. The Tampa 2 leaves too many holes and the spread will demolish it.


So do you not think one of the best Defensive Coordinators in the NFL can figure out how to defend the spread offense?.......Just asking.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22133 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:35 pm to
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"I think (the decision) all came down to the (defensive) coaches leaving at LSU and Tennessee getting Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron and Frank Wilson (as coaches),’’ said Lance Guidry


Yeah b/c everyone hates an upgrade
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

New Keys Richardson

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
159146 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

NFL can figure out how to defend the


Having theories on stopping the spread is one thing, having the talent to actually do so is completely different
Posted by augustbengal
shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
1314 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:40 pm to
"keep in mind many of us were hoping Trent Richardson had lied to Bama when he was making his announcement yesturday. It sucks, but recruiting is a dirty game and UT seems to have brought in some pretty good slimeballs to recruit."

Yeah, but at least TR had the decency to say he wasn't solid to BAMA. JJ did not. It seemed very intentional.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22133 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:41 pm to
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or John Chavis who has coordinated SEC defense since Jackson was in diapers.......


Kiffin: Come to Tennessee and you can be just like Eric Berry. We'll teach you just like, well, uh, I guess just like LSU's DC taught him...

Posted by Jackfish28
Mobile
Member since Feb 2007
2112 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:55 pm to
OComplete and total BS cover story. They held his commit so that they could lock up Myles and screw LSU and or Bama. It is just that simple.
His mom missed the flight. Caoch O set this whole thing up from at least a few weeks ago to screw us, just like he did with McKnight. It is smart really get who you can and keep everybody else from gtting good players. Ole Miss did it in the 50's and Bama did it forever it seems under Bear. But I never rember Bear or Vaught telling recuits to lie, and then having a press conference to brag about it.
Posted by B C Tiger Fan
Where I Am.
Member since Jan 2007
48 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:56 pm to
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Having theories on stopping the spread is one thing, having the talent to actually do so is completely different


I agree completely......but please don't under estimate the draw and allure Monte Kiffin will have on defensive talent.....Saban gets alot of his talent because of his reputation in the media (deserved or not is another topic) as a great coach with many NFL CONTACTS. And for many of these kids (recruits) the NFL is what it's all about.
Posted by tigerhack
Member since Nov 2007
431 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:10 pm to
i got money that says his dad will be coaching at tenn. within a year or so. all this shite was real dirty. we would have gotten myles if he had known of jackson decision yesterday.
Posted by Jackfish28
Mobile
Member since Feb 2007
2112 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:11 pm to
I am Ok with that to some extent. Still would be a little pissed but why lie abbout it and hid your commitment. Waht ddi LSU ever do to this kid or his dad to get this screwing?
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