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Another one of Steeples' kids is now in the portal...

Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:31 pm
...Lanell Carr from West Virginia.

Here's his bio

6-1, 245-pound Jack linebacker. Had 21 tackles, 4.5 for loss and a sack this year. Played next door to Jordan Jefferson on West Virginia's defensive line (kinda like Brooks and Foucha played next door in Arkansas' secondary).

I wonder if maybe we might take a flyer on him as a backup and special teams guy. We could maybe use another Jack linebacker, and if this guy could play some inside linebacker that would really make him useful.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1976 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

might take a flyer on him as a backup and special teams guy.



I know that spots aren't really in short supply, but why would we waste a spot on a backup/special teamer? If you want another JACK, go get a guy who can actually play the position; don't get a special teams guy. It seems like this guy wasn't even much more than rotational depth for a really bad WVU team... I can't imagine he'd be more than a bench warmer for us.


If you're gonna take a guy who's not really gonna contribute this year, why not take a HS prospect?
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1089 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:53 pm to
Interesting that 247 has him listed at 6 foot 3
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
3531 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:56 pm to
Damn how good was his high school team...
Posted by Ikneauxnuffin
da bayou
Member since Dec 2019
735 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:00 pm to
IMO we don’t need to take flyers on guys who not legit LB’s.
We need solid guys at the Mike, 2, minimum
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50785 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:00 pm to
interesting he enters as we lose Tolan
They need bodies at this point and that would be a decent pickup
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

I know that spots aren't really in short supply, but why would we waste a spot on a backup/special teamer? If you want another JACK, go get a guy who can actually play the position; don't get a special teams guy. It seems like this guy wasn't even much more than rotational depth for a really bad WVU team... I can't imagine he'd be more than a bench warmer for us.


We badly need some kids who can help out on special teams.

For all the screaming about Polian, we were really scraping to find people who could help there. And the kids who have hit the portal from our roster are a whole lot of the people who did play on the special teams.

It isn't a good idea to just fill up special teams with freshmen or to draft a bunch of backup wide receivers. You need a mix of some veterans and some kids with size, too. A 6-1, 245-pound guy who can run a little like this kid can will bring you some value there.

And if he can give you depth at Jack that's a plus. Right now you have Saivion Jones (maybe, if he doesn't play end), DaShawn Womack, Swinson (who's pretty light at 230 pounds) and 205-pound Zavier Carter (who did look good in the Citrus Bowl), and that's it. Unless you want to move Perkins over there, which the depth at linebacker says you can't do.

You actually need somebody who can hold his own on the edge, if for nothing else than depth.

I'm not saying I'd take this guy. I'm just saying he might be somebody we'd look at and if we do there could be reasons for it.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6221 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:17 pm to
I like that “next door” analogy
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32082 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

I know that spots aren't really in short supply, but why would we waste a spot on a backup/special teamer? If you want another JACK, go get a guy who can actually play the position; don't get a special teams guy. It seems like this guy wasn't even much more than rotational depth for a really bad WVU team... I can't imagine he'd be more than a bench warmer for us.


If you're gonna take a guy who's not really gonna contribute this year, why not take a HS prospect?


You really aren't paying attention are you?

The scenario that you are somehow against, is actually one of the benefits of the portal. Add some depth with an already mature, developed guy, even if he's not overly talented. And he only has a year or two left. It's a temporary situation.

Way better than adding an over-matched high school kid that you have to develop, and will likely tranfer out anyway.

And there is no shortage of spots.

(and this has nothing to do with this player, just the portal in general)
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:46 pm to
Agreed, Bjorn.

Some of these kids aren't even in the portal for playing time. They're in it because they're on bad teams or in bad programs and they want to win.

I don't know that we want this kid, but if we decided we did, he's got a relationship with Steeples and with Jefferson, not to mention Wingo and Seth Marcione and maybe Markway (and maybe even JK Johnson too), and he knows he's coming to a good program that could vault him from playing on a crap team to the playoffs.

Guys like that can very often come in and be glue guys, and when they play they give so much effort that they'll be more productive than anybody thinks.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32082 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:53 pm to
Yea. We took players last year that were expected to be backups and we will this year.

That this is some CRAZY idea is silly.

We need warm bodies at several positions, perhaps only for a year or two until recruiting catches up.

An upperclassman transfer is perfect for that role.
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1829 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:58 pm to
Hopefully steep made a call, cause if he did then maybe he’s worthy of a chance to compete, and then again, maybe they “know” he can compete and make a name for himself, good coaching can make lots of kids better, just never know imo!
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:10 pm to
How do you know this kid can't be a contributor on defense?

He had 21 tackles and 4.5 TFL. That's not terrible production. It's very comparable to what Savion Jones did this year (23 tackles, 6 tfl). Surely we would take Savion Jones if he was in the portal, wouldn't we?

Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1956 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:14 pm to
I'll leave all that up to scouts and the coaches. I'm sure they are studying the portal and doing their due diligence on every athlete available.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

I'll leave all that up to scouts and the coaches

Absolutely I agree. My point was just that you can't just look at his stats and assume he can't play.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3231 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:15 pm to
They were the best team in the state of Missouri regardless of class in 2019 and were the 2nd best team in the state in 2020. They unseated perennial powerhouse CBC who is a top 20 team in the country nearly every year in St Louis and have since 3 peated again the last 3 years. Desmet been mediocre the last couple years since steeples left and they weren’t a notable program atleast on a state championship contending level for a decade before Steeples got there. He turned that program around and made them into a powerhouse. Every single kid that’s ever been around him in St Louis loves him.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

good coaching can make lots of kids better
That's a point that should be mentioned/considered more than it's been.
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